Author Topic: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?  (Read 32354 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #50 on: July 30, 2015, 09:24:20 am »
Was thinking of this, cos I do miss the start menu they vaporised in W8, but OTOH I've got used to its absence. So no.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2015, 09:33:20 am »
I missed the Start Menu for all of ten minutes before installing Classic Shell on my first Win 8 box, and it was the very first thing I installed on my desktop machine after Windows itself.

I'll be holding off at least until I get back from my holibobs and probably a good deal longer than that.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #52 on: July 30, 2015, 10:51:52 am »
Never heard of Classic Shell before.  ???
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #53 on: July 30, 2015, 11:06:01 am »
The Wi-Fi password sharing feature is also known as WiFi Sense.
I've had to set-up a RADIUS server and WPA Enterprise at work, but not all together satisfied with it as staff can now join their own devices to the unrestricted Wi-Fi connection using their domain credentials *facepalm*
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2015, 04:25:24 pm »
The Wi-Fi password sharing feature is also known as WiFi Sense.
I've had to set-up a RADIUS server and WPA Enterprise at work, but not all together satisfied with it as staff can now join their own devices to the unrestricted Wi-Fi connection using their domain credentials *facepalm*

THAT is a total fail :( NOT impressed with that one MS!
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #55 on: July 30, 2015, 05:25:42 pm »
Never heard of Classic Shell before.  ???
Classic Shell and (for Office) Classic Menu are brilliant. I use both.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #56 on: July 30, 2015, 10:37:22 pm »
Just installing it on a Dell Core i5 machine now I'll let you know in a minute!

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #57 on: July 30, 2015, 11:28:21 pm »
Well that was painless.  Everything seems to just work and first impressions are very good.  I have a proper start menu and the look and feel is excellent - streets ahead of 8.1 and with a much more up to date feel than 7.   It's very, very quick too.  So far, so good.   

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #58 on: July 30, 2015, 11:32:58 pm »
Win 8 sucks a very large one so Win10 terrifies me.  When's the end of extended support for Win7?

EDIT: 2020.  So I won't be going for Win 10!

That'll be a nay here too.

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #59 on: July 30, 2015, 11:55:35 pm »
We get good versions about every 5 years if you think back - NT4, W2K, XP and W7, with complacent and indulgent wankware in between.  On that basis this is due to be a good one.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #60 on: July 31, 2015, 09:06:01 am »
The reviews I've seen so far have been universally positive. Sadly, I can't verify them as the one computer I'd earmarked for an early upgrade reports that its graphic card doesn't have a Win10-compatible driver available, so Win10 will not install.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #61 on: July 31, 2015, 09:13:43 am »
The update fails repeatedly on the only one of mine that I've tried so far.  The only good thing is that it puts back the working 8.1 Pro system so the machine does still work afterwards.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #62 on: July 31, 2015, 09:30:34 am »
I clicked for the upgrade on my home PC some weeks ago but I still don't see an option to upgrade. I'm actually looking forward to 10 because I really don't want to go from 7 -> 8.x for our work machines.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #63 on: July 31, 2015, 09:49:59 am »
You'll get a little Windows symbol in the task bar. Click on that and a dialogue will come up giving you info about the upgrade - it's being rolled out in stages (based on what I've no idea!). On my old Sony Vaio, this reported the upgrade wouldn't work. On my MacBook Air (Bootcamp Win 8.1), it tells me I'm not yet scheduled.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2015, 09:58:05 am »
It's only now telling me "This PC is unable to run Windows 10" due to lack of graphics driver, for ATI Radeon Xpress in Dell Inspiron 1501 laptop.

"Have a look at new PCs", it says.  Ah, a conspiracy to sell more hardware!
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #65 on: July 31, 2015, 10:02:48 am »
Yes, my Sony failed the test for lack of a graphics driver. Can't remember the make, but I wouldn't be surprised if a compatible driver gets created fairly soon.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #66 on: July 31, 2015, 10:07:51 am »
I wonder if it could be made to work anyway?  Like some drivers written for Vista and even XP work with Windows 7.  (Only some, not all).
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #67 on: July 31, 2015, 10:12:25 am »
Maybe, but I wasn't given an option to download and install the OS on the off-chance! If and when you can get it on disk (for £99!), it might be possible.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #68 on: July 31, 2015, 10:28:02 am »
Looks like we can download it directly via https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Of course it may refuse to work.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #69 on: July 31, 2015, 10:32:58 am »
Ah, interesting. I might give that a go!

Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #70 on: July 31, 2015, 10:35:41 am »
Looks like we can download it directly via https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

Of course it may refuse to work.

That's how I did it and it downloads and installs quite quickly.  You do get a rollback option for 30 days as well, contrary to the information up thread.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #71 on: July 31, 2015, 10:40:28 am »
Actually, I'm pretty sure that when I put Win8 on that old Vaio there was no dedicated graphics driver, and it just used a generic Windows one. It works fine. I'll try it; the computer's not essential to anything - I only use it to run TrainerRoads and BKool turbo software - so if it bricks, I've lost very little.

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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #72 on: July 31, 2015, 12:14:18 pm »
Yes, even Windows 7 includes some graphics drivers or a generic graphics driver.  I was warned this computer wasn't compatible with W7, but W7 actually works fine, so perhaps the same will be true for W10, too.

My download's just conked out for no apparent reason.  Will try again tonight/tomorrow.  I can restore my W7 image backup if W10 fooks up my babbage-engine.  I'll also roll back if my favourite touchpad driver doesn't work.  Generic ones don't provide the same scrolling performance.  May then try W10 on a desktop PC instead.
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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #73 on: July 31, 2015, 04:22:47 pm »
I hate to pile on the criticism, but as people are installing I think they'd want to know: by default, Win 10 uses your bandwidth to distribute updates to other users, bittorrent stylee. How to turn it off:

http://lifehacker.com/windows-10-uses-your-bandwidth-to-distribute-updates-d-1721091469


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Re: Windows 10 upgrade - yay or nay?
« Reply #74 on: July 31, 2015, 04:29:45 pm »
I hate to pile on the criticism, but as people are installing I think they'd want to know: by default, Win 10 uses your bandwidth to distribute updates to other users, bittorrent stylee. How to turn it off:

http://lifehacker.com/windows-10-uses-your-bandwidth-to-distribute-updates-d-1721091469

I can't see the option they're talking about on my W7 installation.   Is it a W8 thing only?
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