Author Topic: Wetherspoons POI  (Read 9310 times)

Wetherspoons POI
« on: February 06, 2016, 02:53:24 pm »
Have they done away with the Garmin GPS friendly file in favour of the damn smartphone app?

I need to reinstall some stuff on a refurbed Etrex and can now no longer find it on the web page.

The old file was great for on the bike and wandering round town.

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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2016, 06:06:26 pm »

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2016, 09:40:45 pm »
Thanks for that feanor.

I had found it but was hoping for something straight from the spoon's mouth as I am assuming that that won't be totally up to date.

Thanks anyway, all the best.

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2016, 07:11:16 pm »
Straight from the horse's mouth
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I have spoken to our marketing team who have confirmed we no longer provide Sat Nav information on our website as all the information including maps are included in the Wetherspoon app.

Sod it. A garmin on a bike is far better for this sort of thing.

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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2016, 12:18:30 am »
Maybe arguing with them (publicly via twitter/facebook?) that a vendor-neutral POI file that can be used in most in-car SatNavs might be better for a public safety point of view than giving drivers yet another reason to fiddle with their smartphones while driving, especially as the marginal cost of producing such would be zero.
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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2016, 10:50:31 am »
Straight from the horse's mouth
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I have spoken to our marketing team who have confirmed we no longer provide Sat Nav information on our website as all the information including maps are included in the Wetherspoon app.

Sod it. A garmin on a bike is far better for this sort of thing.

surely an android app isn't so encrypted  you couldn't hack the lat longs out, i'm sure feanor with his l33t GPS skillz could do it ;)
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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2016, 11:14:16 am »
I wonder how many Wetherspoons are mapped in OpenStreetMap. Probably most of them, but I suspect they may not be consistently tagged as such. From a quick, seems at least 350 are mapped.
If your local one is missing, you could add it. You could go on a surveying pub crawl...
Make sure you add the tag operator=J D Wetherspoon

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2016, 12:25:59 pm »
if you POST

{"location":{"lng":0,"lat":0},"paging":{"numberPerPage":1000,"page":1,"UsePagination":true},"term":null,"searchType":0,"searchAddress":false}

to

https://api.jdwetherspoon.com/api/pubs

it produces

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55634526/arc-response-2016%20Feb%2014%2012-24-45.json

which can be converted into

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55634526/Wetherspoons.gpx

 :)
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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2016, 03:58:41 pm »
I wonder how many Wetherspoons are mapped in OpenStreetMap. Probably most of them, but I suspect they may not be consistently tagged as such.

Yes I am pretty sure they are all there - but under the Pub name.

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2016, 04:03:21 pm »
Cripes BenT.

Impressed - very.

That is the latest live list I assume?

Anyone put it into a Garmin (I can't at the mo) to check if it works?

[Spoons, despite some folks' snobberies about them, are of course the cyclists friend - guaranteed good beer at good prices, cheap nosh (as long as you don't expect restaurant food - tho the steaks are good) and informal -often good for recharging stuff. I know one or two campers who were also wont to take advantage (in the nicest way) of their sachet/condiment packs etc though a while ago they went to full size bottles so they would have to contemplate blatant and rather sad theft]

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2016, 04:07:41 pm »
If your local one is missing, you could add it. You could go on a surveying pub crawl...
Make sure you add the tag operator=J D Wetherspoon

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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2016, 05:27:49 pm »
fhills - you forgot serving beer at 9am after a night ride 😏 Whilst I wouldn't necessarily go out f my way in order to eat at 'Spoons, there have been many times when they were very welcome.
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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2016, 05:48:33 pm »
if you POST

{"location":{"lng":0,"lat":0},"paging":{"numberPerPage":1000,"page":1,"UsePagination":true},"term":null,"searchType":0,"searchAddress":false}

to

https://api.jdwetherspoon.com/api/pubs

it produces

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55634526/arc-response-2016%20Feb%2014%2012-24-45.json

which can be converted into

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55634526/Wetherspoons.gpx

 :)

Works in Basecamp: http://www.pinniped.plus.com/gpx/wetherspoons_poi.gpx

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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2016, 06:21:15 pm »
Doesn't work in Mapsource, which seems over-fussy about the <GPX> opening tag.

Replacing the <GPX> tag with one out of a Mapsource-originated GPX works just fine.

After a bit of playing around comparing your <GPX> opening tag to a mapsource-generated one, I've narrowed it down to the fact that Mapsource insists in there being a "creator" defined.
So editing your file to add a creator works fine in mapsource ( it doesn't matter what the creator actually is ):

<gpx xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" creator="Wibble Wibble" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.topografix.com/GPX/1/1">


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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2016, 06:37:50 pm »
I'm sure can update his code to fix that. If he released it to a web page so you could grab the latest anytime you wanted, that'd be even better,

Feanor

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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2016, 06:42:11 pm »
I was considering hacking together a standalone exe with 3 buttons:

Get Data
Dump Raw JSON
Write GPX

It'll depend how much spare time I have.


Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2016, 08:03:34 pm »
fhills - you forgot serving beer at 9am after a night ride 😏 Whilst I wouldn't necessarily go out f my way in order to eat at 'Spoons, there have been many times when they were very welcome.

:) you may have been better with their endless coffee refills (i am a real coffee hound but must say that it is actually pretty decent, pretty strong) ,

Will get round to trying ben t's handiwork on my etrex 20 - if it works may be back on this thread now and again begging for updates.

I actually live close to 2 of spoon's finest. In fact my spoons poi file used to nag me every time i passed my local one on the bike until i disabled its proximity siren.

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2016, 04:22:43 pm »
if you POST

{"location":{"lng":0,"lat":0},"paging":{"numberPerPage":1000,"page":1,"UsePagination":true},"term":null,"searchType":0,"searchAddress":false}

to

https://api.jdwetherspoon.com/api/pubs

it produces

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55634526/arc-response-2016%20Feb%2014%2012-24-45.json

which can be converted into

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/55634526/Wetherspoons.gpx

 :)

Works in Basecamp: http://www.pinniped.plus.com/gpx/wetherspoons_poi.gpx

Yes I managed to get that into Basecamp.

But when I tried BenT's file I got a report that there was a mistake in the second line.

Can some kind soul explain this?  - be gentle - I'm not that techie.

Will try to get it into the Etrex 20 later - it used to appear under an "extras" menu but I can't remember how I did that - 'twas a fair while ago.

Feanor

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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2016, 06:06:07 pm »
But when I tried BenT's file I got a report that there was a mistake in the second line.
Can some kind soul explain this?  - be gentle - I'm not that techie.

It's what I said earlier, probably.
( Assuming Basecamp and Mapsource are complaining about the same thing. )

The second line is the <GPX> opening tag.
You need to add a 'creator' to it and it will work.

Here's one I prepared earlier:
www.lowe-family.me.uk/gpx/Wetherspoons_modified.gpx

Compare the 2 files in notepad, and you can see the tiny difference in the second line.

fuaran

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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2016, 11:17:51 pm »
Will try to get it into the Etrex 20 later - it used to appear under an "extras" menu but I can't remember how I did that - 'twas a fair while ago.
To make it appear on the POI menu, I think you would need to convert it to a Garmin POI file (.gpi).
You can do this using the Garmin POI Loader software. Or GPSBabel can convert from GPX to GPI. Not sure if BaseCamp can do this.
Then put the file on the Etrex, in the Garmin\POI folder.

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2016, 05:45:05 am »
Hi fuaran

Got it on to the etrex 20 under "extras" but one odd thing compared to my last use of POI loader - before, when i selected "extras" on the E20, i got a second button  "wetherspoons" to click on - now i go straight to a list of the closest spoons. Any idea how to sort this? Would be handy as i also used to have 2 separate lists, with their own separate layered button, of archies campsite POIs.

Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2016, 09:15:11 am »
I'm sure can update his code to fix that. If he released it to a web page so you could grab the latest anytime you wanted, that'd be even better,
I could do that fairly easily.
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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2016, 09:55:16 am »
before, when i selected "extras" on the E20, i got a second button  "wetherspoons" to click on -

I think it depends on how the POI file is organised - I think the Garmin can only read one .gpi file but that file can contain any number of section headings (eg pubs, bike shops, funeral parlours) and these then appear when you press the L-H 'menu' button.  It's a very long time since I fettled any POI, so I forget the details.
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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2016, 10:01:16 am »
I'm sure can update his code to fix that. If he released it to a web page so you could grab the latest anytime you wanted, that'd be even better,
I could do that fairly easily.
here you go www.gpxeditor.co.uk/Poi/Wetherspoons
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Re: Wetherspoons POI
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2016, 10:57:38 am »
Pedantry alert:

oo ben, so I can click on that in a couple of weeks and if the mighty spoons has added any pubs to its list in the meantime they will all be on there?