Author Topic: [HAMR] Another go .. TG??  (Read 125933 times)

whosatthewheel

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1000 on: March 18, 2018, 02:25:43 pm »

I do have Mark B's round Britain record in mind, maybe 2019? I'd only do it if I can get at least the same sort of support. I wouldn't count on it though. Mark B is well known and well established so has very good support. He couldn't have done his round the world record without it and his round Britain ride was a practice run.


I was referring to the older Nick Sanders 22 days around Britain (4800 miles in total). He had a crew of two mates in a support car with a spare bike. Spent most nights in either B&Bs or campsites.
I think if you plan something in the summer, maybe with the idea of finishing just before school holidays to avoid the worst traffic along the coast, it shouldn't be difficult to enrol o couple of friends for what should be a pleasant car trip for them.

I don't think MB's 14 days 3500 miles "round Britain" is a record in its own right. It certainly is a long way in a very short time, but it seems a bit short of mileage to be THE "round the coast of Britain" record.

I haven't even looked at the details of that ride. I'd rather do the Nick Sanders version if it really is that different. It sounds like a more interesting ride with steep hills and narrow lanes. I'd have a pretty big advantage as well with a GPS and better lights.

And don't forget the gears! He had a 42 x 21 or something like that to go up Bealach Na Ba... :P
I don't think he did much night riding... he did it in summer, so light for 16-18 hours a day, but yes, GPS helps immensely. His book is not very informative re. the details of the route, there is just a very generic map on it and a breakdown for each day with the key towns he went through. Surely there must be an "official" route of some description.
Guy Martin tried in December 2016... I think he lasted a week or so before his Achilles gave up, but must have planned the route very carefully and I am sure would be happy to pass on that information to you if you found a way to contact him...

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Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1001 on: March 18, 2018, 11:44:28 pm »
good to have back Steve! i've read your account while sitting on a turbo today - you went through a lot of hardship (in addition to all the miles ridden). i don't know / can't think of anyone else with such determination and mental fortitude. massive well done and good luck in your future challenges and adventures!

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1002 on: March 19, 2018, 10:20:07 am »
Huge congratulations Steve, plus big thanks for the updates and answers, much appreciated (as is all of your writing).

We can now be less worried about how the recovery is going, sounds like you are handling another "interesting" time very well.

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Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1003 on: March 24, 2018, 09:09:07 am »
Took me a while, but really enjoyed reading your report. Very interesting to hear about your thinking and strategies. Thanks for writing it.

Hugely impressed with your result in some very challenging circumstances. I hope the driver who hit you was appropriately dealt with by the police, but I can understand that not being your top priority at the time and it's lucky that you weren't more seriously injured.

Good luck with your next adventure and hope to see you on the road sometime.

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1004 on: April 14, 2018, 12:59:49 am »


nobody has ever heard of Amanda Coker, before or after... it begs the question... why?


Plenty of people over here in the states have heard of Amanda since she finished her HAMR. She's raced in 5 TT's so far this year and she's won them all, setting track records on every course she's raced. She just won the State of Florida Time Trial Championship this past weekend where she rode a 40:21 in a 30k (27.7 mph) and beat all the women (and most of the men), including pro's.

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1005 on: April 14, 2018, 07:36:08 pm »


nobody has ever heard of Amanda Coker, before or after... it begs the question... why?


Plenty of people over here in the states have heard of Amanda since she finished her HAMR. She's raced in 5 TT's so far this year and she's won them all, setting track records on every course she's raced. She just won the State of Florida Time Trial Championship this past weekend where she rode a 40:21 in a 30k (27.7 mph) and beat all the women (and most of the men), including pro's.
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Plenty? Out of 250 million how many do you think? A few thousand at best IMO.
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Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1006 on: April 14, 2018, 09:35:13 pm »


Plenty? Out of 250 million how many do you think? A few thousand at best IMO.

y'know, that's really uncalled for. Whether you meant it that way or not it comes over as denigrating what is truly an astonishing accomplishment, which I'm sure you didn't mean to. You have no ***** idea how many have now heard of her - a simple google shows her story was picked up by just about every cycling site, and many sporting sites. You live in the US these days? Any idea if she's been on local TV, radio?

Samuel D

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1007 on: April 15, 2018, 10:17:15 am »
Besides, who’s to say she did it for fame? Whosatthewheel’s question – why? – is churlish and anyway trite. It could be applied to everything anyone has ever done.

whosatthewheel

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1008 on: April 15, 2018, 10:45:30 am »
Back to AC... I don't think she did it because she wanted to loop a circuit for 12+ hours a day for 365 consecutive days... clearly she did it because she wanted that record. Why people want records? You can find a million reasons, but ultimately they all boil down to fame and notoriety, which on occasions can be turned into cash, on others less so.
What I said earlier is that the return on investment for that particular effort is pretty poor. A greater level of notoriety (and more money?) can be achieved without the need to invest so much time. This is a fact, I don't think you can realistically argue with that.

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Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1009 on: April 15, 2018, 11:14:10 am »
This is a fact, I don't think you can realistically argue with that.

Maybe, just maybe, there are alternative facts...
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Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1010 on: April 15, 2018, 11:19:23 am »
Back to AC... I don't think she did it because she wanted to loop a circuit for 12+ hours a day for 365 consecutive days... clearly she did it because she wanted that record. Why people want records? You can find a million reasons, but ultimately they all boil down to fame and notoriety, which on occasions can be turned into cash, on others less so.
What I said earlier is that the return on investment for that particular effort is pretty poor. A greater level of notoriety (and more money?) can be achieved without the need to invest so much time. This is a fact, I don't think you can realistically argue with that.

You don't have the faintest idea about Amanda's motivation, do you, so I really have no idea why you are persisting with this line of thought, which I for one find dismissive and slightly offensive.

LMT

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1011 on: April 15, 2018, 11:23:47 am »
Back to AC... I don't think she did it because she wanted to loop a circuit for 12+ hours a day for 365 consecutive days... clearly she did it because she wanted that record. Why people want records? You can find a million reasons, but ultimately they all boil down to fame and notoriety, which on occasions can be turned into cash, on others less so.
What I said earlier is that the return on investment for that particular effort is pretty poor. A greater level of notoriety (and more money?) can be achieved without the need to invest so much time. This is a fact, I don't think you can realistically argue with that.

What utter bollox - seriously. Why the hell does there need to be something tangible in terms of a ROI.

Think Mastercard advert from back in the day...

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1012 on: April 16, 2018, 10:46:30 am »
Why people want records? You can find a million reasons, but ultimately they all boil down to fame and notoriety, which on occasions can be turned into cash, on others less so.

Nope.

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1013 on: April 16, 2018, 11:07:06 am »
"Why do you want to climb Mount Everest?"

"Because it is there."

whosatthewheel

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1014 on: April 16, 2018, 11:11:10 am »
"Why do you want to climb Mount Everest?"

"Because it is there."

Sure,
Why do you want your climb to be officially recognised, so that everybody is aware? If there was no official or indeed unofficial record of who has climbed which mountain and by which route, how many would climb mountains?

I take for granted that the challenge is a very personal thing, but ultimately the desire to make the challenge "official" is down to the desire to see it recognised by others... public, peers... others

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1015 on: April 16, 2018, 11:12:57 am »
You really don't understand.  The overwhelming majority of those who 'climb mountains' literally do it for the personal challenge and not for fame, glory nor wealth.

whosatthewheel

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1016 on: April 16, 2018, 11:16:05 am »
You really don't understand.  The overwhelming majority of those who 'climb mountains' literally do it for the personal challenge and not for fame, glory nor wealth.
I do understand that people do things for passion.
With that in mind, when someone attempts to climb the Eiger in under 2 hours, he does so to set a new record and all of the above applies

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1017 on: April 16, 2018, 12:15:28 pm »
Going for a record and having it recognised is as much about maintaining a record as it is about breaking it. Records are just that, recordings of events. If Kurt and Amanda kept their efforts quiet, everyone would think that I rode the 2nd greatest distance in a year. I'd rather be a more honest 4th than a dishonorable 2nd. I went for the record because I wanted to be the person who had cycled the most miles in a year. Any other gains are a bonus and I will capitalise and benefit from them as much as I can and that extends beyond financial gain. I think I'd be a fool not to.
Publicity isn't just for record attempts. Sports Relief is a good example.


Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1018 on: April 27, 2018, 11:57:13 pm »
Great talk from Steve at Skelwith Bridge this evening (great food and venue too). Some really interesting insights that he was able to bring with a bit of reflection as well as some moving moments. YACF gets plenty of mentions too. I'd recommend it if you can make it to one of his other planned talks on his record attempts (Clitheroe on Saturday and a few others planned I believe).

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1019 on: April 28, 2018, 08:07:18 am »
I'm at Monday's in Sowerby Bridge - looking forward to it.

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1020 on: April 28, 2018, 10:31:49 am »
I was at the Banff Mountain Film Festival event in Dorking last night. One of the films was about a chap whose aim was to skin up and ski down two and a half million vertical feet in a calendar year. That's 6850' every day, or 2090m.

He did it, but suffered from patches of over training, a fall resulting in a broken hand. A fascinating watch.

It would be fun to put him and Steve into the same room for a bit.
Rust never sleeps

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1021 on: April 28, 2018, 02:01:01 pm »
...aim was to skin up and ski down two and a half million vertical feet

Many a plan has been hatched in that way.

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1022 on: May 01, 2018, 02:20:26 pm »
I'm at Monday's in Sowerby Bridge - looking forward to it.

DC, were you sat on the back row?

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1023 on: May 02, 2018, 12:15:18 am »
I'm at Monday's in Sowerby Bridge - looking forward to it.

DC, were you sat on the back row?

Nope, front row and I asked the last question.

Where were you?

Re: Another go .. TG??
« Reply #1024 on: May 02, 2018, 03:53:31 am »
Ah!  I was standing at the back (mostly) and asked the question about whether or not Steve was concerned that some of us were anxious about his health.