Changing the PBP child board to LEL

[Cycling Redemption]

With a year to go to the start of LEL I think it's about time we had the thread at the top changed.  I just want to know how everyone's training is going after the long lockdown and who plans be there.

[LateStarter]

and in 12 days it will only be 2 years till PBP 2023, somehow I seem to have lost more than a years preparation.

[madcow]

I'm more carthorse than racehorse, certainly not built for hill climbing.
I came into audax from CTC touring not racing. I am not a turbo slave.

In 2014,I didn't do any calendar events. In 2015,I did enough to qualify ,plus one hilly 200, a month before going to Paris. 82 hours.
In 2018, I almost did an SR(no 300) but went mad in 2019 doing 3x600 and loads more. PBP was a blast I but took my time to enjoy it. 84 hours.
Given the current entry rules ,you might get in quite easily with a 400 in the preceeding year.
Don't start fretting yet.

[Wycombewheeler]

I'm more carthorse than racehorse, certainly not built for hill climbing.
I came into audax from CTC touring not racing. I am not a turbo slave.

In 2014,I didn't do any calendar events. In 2015,I did enough to qualify ,plus one hilly 200, a month before going to Paris. 82 hours.
In 2018, I almost did an SR(no 300) but went mad in 2019 doing 3x600 and loads more. PBP was a blast I but took my time to enjoy it. 84 hours.
Given the current entry rules ,you might get in quite easily with a 400 in the preceeding year.
Don't start fretting yet.

I agree with this,  getting a good pre qualifier is the only concern in 2022. Then i'd recommend doing 200s through the winter before doing the qualifiers - make them hilly ones not easy ones and doubling up each distance is not a bad idea if you have time.  It takes the pressure off each ride knowing there is a back up plan in case of failure.

[Ivo]

Usually I request a long weekend off for 3 rides, an early 400, a weekend with both late 400s and early 600s and finally a weekend for a late 600. In this way I can bodge one ride without restarting weekend/holiday negotiations at work.

[Alex B]

getting a good pre qualifier is the only concern in 2022.

LEL, for example? I assume the 2022 LEL will be ACP-recognized.

If so, with a lot (ha!) of LEL finishers likely PBP applicants too, those choice early slots are going to be filled before riders with a "mere" 600 get a look in ...

[Wycombewheeler]

getting a good pre qualifier is the only concern in 2022.

LEL, for example? I assume the 2022 LEL will be ACP-recognized.

If so, with a lot (ha!) of LEL finishers likely PBP applicants too, those choice early slots are going to be filled before riders with a "mere" 600 get a look in ...

831 people listed as finishing the last lel, there are 7000 places on pbp.

Not everyone who rides lel will want to do pbp, but it may be harder to get a place in the first waves than usual. Anyone who is worried can always look for a 1000km event which will have the same benefit as lel

[L CC]

There was a load of pre-qualifier panic for 2019 and in the end, it didn't matter. Enough of us didn't take up our places.

[Wycombewheeler]

There was a load of pre-qualifier panic for 2019 and in the end, it didn't matter. Enough of us didn't take up our places.

Getting a place will not be hard,  but anyone who wants the first 90hr group or first 80hr group may have trouble

[Ivo]

getting a good pre qualifier is the only concern in 2022.

LEL, for example? I assume the 2022 LEL will be ACP-recognized.

If so, with a lot (ha!) of LEL finishers likely PBP applicants too, those choice early slots are going to be filled before riders with a "mere" 600 get a look in ...

831 people listed as finishing the last lel, there are 7000 places on pbp.

Not everyone who rides lel will want to do pbp, but it may be harder to get a place in the first waves than usual. Anyone who is worried can always look for a 1000km event which will have the same benefit as lel

With LEL starting early august riding a not too hard 1000k BRM in june would work fine. The 1000 then serves as a training ride for LEL and as a back up pre-qualifier. But don't do a multiple AAA rated 1000, at least if you're a mere mortal.

[Zed43]

With LEL starting early august riding a not too hard 1000k BRM in june would work fine. The 1000 then serves as a training ride for LEL and as a back up pre-qualifier. But don't do a multiple AAA rated 1000, at least if you're a mere mortal.

Since you're on the board of Randonneurs NL I guess the availability of a flat(tish) BRM 1000 in June can be expected? 

In 2017 I did ride Kristiansand #1 5 weeks prior to LEL and a flat BRM 300 in between. Fatigued wise it was fine, though I wonder if this aggravated the soreness in my bottom during LEL and the numbness in my fingers afterwards.

[quixoticgeek]

Since you're on the board of Randonneurs NL I guess the availability of a flat(tish) BRM 1000 in June can be expected? 

In 2017 I did ride Kristiansand #1 5 weeks prior to LEL and a flat BRM 300 in between. Fatigued wise it was fine, though I wonder if this aggravated the soreness in my bottom during LEL and the numbness in my fingers afterwards.

I did put forth a suggestion for one, but I don't know if it was taken seriously. Amsterdam-Brussels-Paris-Brussels-Amsterdam, it's 1000km given my 2020 ride to the seaside has been pushed back to 2022, I'm not sure I have the spoons to organise a 1000 and also train.

J

[slugbait]

I'm hoping a 600 will be sufficient as a pre-qualifier (and I don't mind starting in the 84 hours category if need be). In between the Race around the Netherlands and LEL, I don't know if a 1000 is a wise choice.

[rogerzilla]

Ideally I need a volunteer mod to prefix all the PBP threads with [PBP 2019] before I merge them back into Audax, or they'll be hard to find.  I don't think we have an active Audax board mod right now - any volunteers?

[Ivo]

With LEL starting early august riding a not too hard 1000k BRM in june would work fine. The 1000 then serves as a training ride for LEL and as a back up pre-qualifier. But don't do a multiple AAA rated 1000, at least if you're a mere mortal.

Since you're on the board of Randonneurs NL I guess the availability of a flat(tish) BRM 1000 in June can be expected? 

It's not the board but the meeting of organisers which discusses the calender. But let me phrase it like we're aiming at maximising the options of a good prequalifcation for Dutch randonneurs (and our guests from abroad).

[quixoticgeek]

It's not the board but the meeting of organisers which discusses the calender. But let me phrase it like we're aiming at maximising the options of a good prequalifcation for Dutch randonneurs (and our guests from abroad).

Don't forget plenty of options for those who just want to do 200's for RRTY purposes.

J

[Wycombewheeler]

getting a good pre qualifier is the only concern in 2022.

LEL, for example? I assume the 2022 LEL will be ACP-recognized.

If so, with a lot (ha!) of LEL finishers likely PBP applicants too, those choice early slots are going to be filled before riders with a "mere" 600 get a look in ...

831 people listed as finishing the last lel, there are 7000 places on pbp.

Not everyone who rides lel will want to do pbp, but it may be harder to get a place in the first waves than usual. Anyone who is worried can always look for a 1000km event which will have the same benefit as lel

With LEL starting early august riding a not too hard 1000k BRM in june would work fine. The 1000 then serves as a training ride for LEL and as a back up pre-qualifier. But don't do a multiple AAA rated 1000, at least if you're a mere mortal.

So doing lejog in early July then LEL in August will be challenging?

[Lightning Phil]

Ideally I need a volunteer mod to prefix all the PBP threads with [PBP 2019] before I merge them back into Audax, or they'll be hard to find.  I don't think we have an active Audax board mod right now - any volunteers?

Wasn’t just a post put in main board with an index of what was in sub board contained in it? Last time by Greenbank. I think.

[Lightning Phil]

Here you go. Index of PBP 2019 sub board sorted alphabetically.

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=120107.0

[LittleWheelsandBig]

With LEL starting early august riding a not too hard 1000k BRM in june would work fine. The 1000 then serves as a training ride for LEL and as a back up pre-qualifier. But don't do a multiple AAA rated 1000, at least if you're a mere mortal.

So doing lejog in early July then LEL in August will be challenging?

It depends. Doing 2 x 1200 with only a week between in 2011 was tough and I definitely had not recovered in time for the second 1200 (PBP Randonneur). A month in between has been fine for me. I think my comfortable repeat threshold for 1200s is 2-3 weeks (if fit) but YMMV.