Author Topic: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020  (Read 86829 times)

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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #725 on: 28 March, 2021, 03:19:46 pm »
Hotels and B&B in England are set to open at the earliest on May 17th. However Wales has no road map, so all bets are off.

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #726 on: 28 March, 2021, 08:18:36 pm »
Hi Andrew, I had confirmation from Ritchie this week that it has been cancelled. An email will be sent out soon. He has already booked next year's event in the calendar.

Thanks elrogerio... gutted.

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #727 on: 29 March, 2021, 09:37:04 am »
Hi Andrew, I had confirmation from Ritchie this week that it has been cancelled. An email will be sent out soon. He has already booked next year's event in the calendar.

Thanks elrogerio... gutted.

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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #728 on: 29 March, 2021, 09:39:26 am »
I guess it could always be ridden as a DIY perm later in the year....
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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #729 on: 29 March, 2021, 10:43:09 am »
Apparently a new shared use path (Wye Valley Greenway) will be connecting Chepstow and Tintern via the Tidenham Tunnel from April but I have not found any useful information on it.
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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #730 on: 29 March, 2021, 11:17:54 am »
Does the BCM go via Tintern these days? Last time I rode it (2017, I think) the last section retraced the outward route from Bronllys, which was a bit dull.
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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #731 on: 29 March, 2021, 11:30:36 am »
Apparently a new shared use path (Wye Valley Greenway) will be connecting Chepstow and Tintern via the Tidenham Tunnel from April but I have not found any useful information on it.

It was the late Nik Peregrine & Jennifer Goslin's initial work that got the ball rolling many years ago.
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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #732 on: 29 March, 2021, 11:37:40 am »
I have ridden a few BCMs and it is prettier going past Tintern, though the hills are a bit of a drag with tired legs.
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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #733 on: 29 March, 2021, 11:39:49 am »
Hi Andrew, I had confirmation from Ritchie this week that it has been cancelled. An email will be sent out soon. He has already booked next year's event in the calendar.

Thanks elrogerio... gutted.

Or a lucky escape!

Haha maybe...

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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #734 on: 29 March, 2021, 06:01:31 pm »
I have ridden a few BCMs and it is prettier going past Tintern, though the hills are a bit of a drag with tired legs.

The old bridge and the abbey are quite magical and an appropriate way to finish a Welsh adventure IMO! By then I had survived the dog, been in "old diesel mode" for at least 6 hours so a little bit less or more of slowly turning the cranks didn't matter that much!
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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #735 on: 01 April, 2021, 08:18:11 pm »
Email from Ritchie confirming cancellation received this afternoon.

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #736 on: 01 April, 2021, 08:46:27 pm »
Why not just go ahead and ride the perm .... entering Wales is permissible from the 12th of April, and 600s hopefully return from May 17th ... what are you all waiting for ?

There are more 'views' to be had on the perm too ... and you all know what that equates to.

I believe (for what I've read elsewhere) that the A479 over Pengenffordd is still closed to cars (but sort of open to pedestrians?) - so still traffic-free. Google maps still routes you over it if you're driving, but Traffic Wales has it closed until October. 

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #737 on: 02 April, 2021, 04:57:52 pm »
Why not just go ahead and ride the perm .... entering Wales is permissible from the 12th of April, and 600s hopefully return from May 17th ... what are you all waiting for ?
There are more 'views' to be had on the perm too ... and you all know what that equates to.
I believe (for what I've read elsewhere) that the A479 over Pengenffordd is still closed to cars (but sort of open to pedestrians?) - so still traffic-free. Google maps still routes you over it if you're driving, but Traffic Wales has it closed until October.
Here's the Permanent route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32249809?beta=false Obviously other route variations are available (eg Hay to Monmouth) but this is my best effort, and the route I'd take. As a Permanent (BR) with you'd get 42+ hours for the distance.
"Chepstow depart/arrivee: Usk, Rhayader, Borth, Barmouth, Caernarfon, Menai Bridge, Llanberis, Betws-y-coed, Dolgellau, Newtown, Llandrindod Wells, Hay-on-Wye, Monmouth. The route can be ridden either direction."
Going via Llangorse is 3km longer than the 'closed' A479 (landslip).
Edit: This is a route based on @Blacksheep's perm.

Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #738 on: 02 April, 2021, 05:18:59 pm »
That is quite a different route to the calendar event when I did it 2019. I believe in went via Llanidloes and via Dolgellau on the way up and down. That looks a nice route though. I love the coast road round from Machynlleth to Dolgellau.

Edit: ok I. Int have misunderstood. I had assumed permanents were the same route as calendar events. I am a relative newbie.

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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #739 on: 02 April, 2021, 05:23:43 pm »
The route has changed a few times over the years.

It used to turn left at Llangurig and take the A44 towards Aberystwyth before cutting up through Bow Street to Mach. After that it was pretty much the same as now except for the return after Newtown.

Even then the perm was slightly different, but I can't remember how, even though I've ridden it (I think). They all mush together in my memory.

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #740 on: 02 April, 2021, 05:33:27 pm »
That is quite a different route to the calendar event when I did it 2019. I believe in went via Llanidloes and via Dolgellau on the way up and down. That looks a nice route though. I love the coast road round from Machynlleth to Dolgellau.

Edit: ok I. Int have misunderstood. I had assumed permanents were the same route as calendar events. I am a relative newbie.

Perms need to take account of commercial premises and their opening times for control receipts.  Calendar you can be more flexible about control locations if you have volunteers to man them or you’ll know riders will pass a commercial premises during certain hours.  Plus as above, routes change over the years but perm may stay as original due to constraints when nothing is manned.

So Kings great on a calendar event. Can you get a receipt at Kings any other time?  Nope. So where are the nearest commercial places with reasonable opening hours etc?

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #741 on: 02 April, 2021, 07:34:54 pm »
Why not just go ahead and ride the perm .... entering Wales is permissible from the 12th of April, and 600s hopefully return from May 17th ... what are you all waiting for ?
There are more 'views' to be had on the perm too ... and you all know what that equates to.
I believe (for what I've read elsewhere) that the A479 over Pengenffordd is still closed to cars (but sort of open to pedestrians?) - so still traffic-free. Google maps still routes you over it if you're driving, but Traffic Wales has it closed until October.
Here's the Permanent route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32249809?beta=false Obviously other route variations are available (eg Hay to Monmouth) but this is my best effort, and the route I'd take. As a Permanent (BR) with you'd get 42+ hours for the distance.
"Chepstow depart/arrivee: Usk, Rhayader, Borth, Barmouth, Caernarfon, Menai Bridge, Llanberis, Betws-y-coed, Dolgellau, Newtown, Llandrindod Wells, Hay-on-Wye, Monmouth. The route can be ridden either direction."
Going via Llangorse is 3km longer than the 'closed' A479 (landslip).

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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #742 on: 02 April, 2021, 09:45:59 pm »
That is quite a different route to the calendar event when I did it 2019. I believe in went via Llanidloes and via Dolgellau on the way up and down. That looks a nice route though. I love the coast road round from Machynlleth to Dolgellau.

Edit: ok I. Int have misunderstood. I had assumed permanents were the same route as calendar events. I am a relative newbie.

Perms need to take account of commercial premises and their opening times for control receipts.  Calendar you can be more flexible about control locations if you have volunteers to man them or you’ll know riders will pass a commercial premises during certain hours.  Plus as above, routes change over the years but perm may stay as original due to constraints when nothing is manned.

So Kings great on a calendar event. Can you get a receipt at Kings any other time?  Nope. So where are the nearest commercial places with reasonable opening hours etc?

Dolgellau has a few cash machines?

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #743 on: 03 April, 2021, 02:02:42 pm »

I believe (for what I've read elsewhere) that the A479 over Pengenffordd is still closed to cars (but sort of open to pedestrians?) - so still traffic-free. Google maps still routes you over it if you're driving, but Traffic Wales has it closed until October.

At Pengenffordd there is a small lane on the right which takes you straight down to Talgarth.  V narrow, beware of tractors & local traffic.

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #744 on: 03 April, 2021, 02:55:31 pm »
I believe (for what I've read elsewhere) that the A479 over Pengenffordd is still closed to cars (but sort of open to pedestrians?) - so still traffic-free. Google maps still routes you over it if you're driving, but Traffic Wales has it closed until October.
At Pengenffordd there is a small lane on the right which takes you straight down to Talgarth.  V narrow, beware of tractors & local traffic.
That is my preferred route up the hill on the final stretch of the calendar event (where the return route boringly (imo) just retraces the pedal strokes of the route north the morning before). And with the current A road closed, there will be a fair few local cars/drivers using that high-hedged lane. It is very narrow, Ian, too narrow to ride past a car coming the other way.

Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #745 on: 06 April, 2021, 06:50:42 pm »
If you're thinking of a permanent, you need to know that Cafes etc in Wales open on 26 April but for outside service only. I don't think you can eat indoors as regulations are at present. Due for review on 22 April. Places to stay have to be self catering. It is a little sparse at the moment. indoors opening is sometime in May and hotels, B&B and other accommodation have to be ensuite to open now and otherwise after 17 May.
Think AUK is declining to validate events over 300k till after 21 June
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Re: Bryan Chapman Memorial 2020
« Reply #746 on: 08 April, 2021, 09:21:26 pm »
If you're thinking of a permanent, you need to know that Cafes etc in Wales open on 26 April but for outside service only. I don't think you can eat indoors as regulations are at present. Due for review on 22 April. Places to stay have to be self catering. It is a little sparse at the moment. indoors opening is sometime in May and hotels, B&B and other accommodation have to be ensuite to open now and otherwise after 17 May.
Think AUK is declining to validate events over 300k till after 21 June
Take sandwiches...
If Ive read the new AUK guidelines page, 17th May is also when perms upto 600k that go in/out o Wales can be validated.
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