Author Topic: MPH or KMH?  (Read 7733 times)

PaulF

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2021, 03:53:19 pm »
   I think some people just use km because 100km at 20kph sounds so much more impressive than 64 miles at 12.5mph.   ;D

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quixoticgeek

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2021, 04:09:12 pm »

You might want to know those things but it’s not necessary to know them.  Sure you can see distances on signs if you’ve made a wrong turn but you don’t need speed nor distance showing on your GPS.

I do need to know those things. You may not want to know them. But I do. Your prescriptive phrasing quite frankly sucks.

You feel you do not need to know distances in anyway shape or form, that is for you, and only you. Your wording suggests everyone should think the same as you. This is, IMHO. Wrong. Please do not presume for others.

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2021, 04:37:41 pm »
I use the units which give most meaning in terms of the activity I'm doing. So cycling is in Km courtesy of Audaxing, walking and car journeys are in miles,  temps are in centigrade/celcius  etc

citoyen

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2021, 04:50:16 pm »
I’m totally metric these days. I buy my shoes in European sizes, I weigh myself in kilos and even the car satnav talks to me in kilometres.

I haven’t even bought beer by the pint since the summer - only in 330ml or 500ml containers from the supermarket.

In any case, pints are also metric units according to the current official definition.
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Jaded

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2021, 04:54:40 pm »
Not being one-dimensional I use both and, and the same for weights etc. Keeps the grey matter working.
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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2021, 04:56:42 pm »
With the exception of driving I have moved to km for pretty much everything and I think in km and km/h (or minutes/km for running or seconds per 100m for swimming).

Mental arithmetic using 20 or 25km/h is much easier than 12.5 or 17

Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2021, 05:32:54 pm »
A friend of mine measures distance on a map in thumbs. 

Karla

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2021, 05:34:53 pm »
In any case, pints are also metric units according to the current official definition.

568 is the best multiple in existence  :thumbsup:

Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2021, 05:37:04 pm »
A friend of mine measures distance on a map in thumbs.
It is 3 thumbs on the map, and it is 1:50000, so 150,000 thumbs to my destination.

rob

Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2021, 05:38:19 pm »
This does remind me of a long time riding partner who would give me a running commentary on how far we had done and how far we had to go.  He may have been the victim of one of my occasional tetchy strops.

PaulF

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2021, 05:44:22 pm »
A friend of mine measures distance on a map in thumbs. 

But metric or Imperial thumbs?

Zed43

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2021, 05:49:01 pm »
I use imperial to annoy certain people  ;D

Being Dutch, it's pretty much all metric. Except for TV / monitor and pants (jeans) sizes, those are imperial. And some bicycle parts, diameter of the stem and tubes (1" top tube is standard, 1 1/8" is oversized etc).

When I'm tired / want a ride to be over I "countdown" the last 6.4km in miles. Yes, seriously.

I don't have distance or speed on the main page of the Garmin, though I have a secondary that shows various stats like average km/h, total distance (km) and distance left (km) for the current track (which is usually the next control).

Karla

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2021, 05:54:38 pm »
I use imperial to annoy certain people  ;D

That is a useful side-effect, yes  ;D

When I was riding across some of the more boring parts of America **coughKansascough** I set my GPS to km so that I could convert between imperial and metric, for want of anything more exciting to do.  I suspect I might get on well with Rob's annoying ride partner.

FifeingEejit

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2021, 05:56:23 pm »
I use both. On my tandem the control panel is in km and the garmin that sits next to it is in miles. I estimate distance on landranger maps in miles, and on explorers by halving the landranger mile.

You convert a Metric map, where every single part of the map key and grid is in metric into imperial?
I get working out the metric value and then converting to imperial, but actually reading such a map in imperial just seems completely wasteful.

FifeingEejit

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2021, 05:58:23 pm »
Everything in miles.  Kilometres aren't used in the UK (except for motorway distance posts 0.1km apart).

Using km for the length of a ride is like a tabloid using °F for heatwaves and °C for cold snaps, to make the numbers more impressive  ;)

Only the signs are in miles, highway engineering is metric.

If you want Imperial/Mixed engineering then you need the railway...
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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2021, 05:59:04 pm »
I use miles in countries that use miles, and kilometres in countries that use kilometres.

Same reason why I don't speak to people in Swedish when I'm in Italy.

citoyen

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2021, 06:00:27 pm »
In any case, pints are also metric units according to the current official definition.

568 is the best multiple in existence  :thumbsup:

Definitely a lot better than 480. How are you supposed to get drunk on short measures?

On second thoughts, I might be slightly wrong about the uk pint - I think it is officially defined as 1/8 of a gallon, and it’s the gallon that is defined in metric.
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citoyen

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2021, 06:02:08 pm »
I use miles in countries that use miles, and kilometres in countries that use kilometres.

Same reason why I don't speak to people in Swedish when I'm in Italy.

I once spent time on a train in Italy in the company of some Swedish people. We communicated in English.
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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2021, 06:02:29 pm »
It appears most cyclists on this forum use both, and for the same reasons. Like many here I attempt to calculate km to miles and vice versa. I'm Jan1961 born so formal learning was formerly imperial and latterly metric. When I time trialled in 1990s it was in mph. Evens (20) mph on twisty sporting course. Km for audax. When I ran in the '80s it was minutes per mile. Thanks for the interesting responses. My 27 year old son records in imperial for both running and cycling. That's England for you.

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2021, 06:05:53 pm »
I use miles in countries that use miles, and kilometres in countries that use kilometres.

Same reason why I don't speak to people in Swedish when I'm in Italy.

I once spent time on a train in Italy in the company of some Swedish people. We communicated in English.

Yes, so not Swedish.  ::-)


p.s.  Let me guess, it was around 1990. You were Interrailing.

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2021, 06:06:41 pm »
I use miles in countries that use miles, and kilometres in countries that use kilometres.

Same reason why I don't speak to people in Swedish when I'm in Italy.

I once spent time on a train in Italy in the company of some Swedish people. We communicated in English.

Swedes and Norwegians use miles. Their mile is 10km.
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citoyen

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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2021, 06:46:36 pm »
Yes, so not Swedish.  ::-)

I wasn't making a point. You triggered a memory, I was being nostalgic. I'm aware that my pointless anecdote is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. I might have added that what I really wanted was to communicate with them in French...

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p.s.  Let me guess, it was around 1990. You were Interrailing.

Close enough.
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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2021, 06:55:19 pm »
I use both. On my tandem the control panel is in km and the garmin that sits next to it is in miles. I estimate distance on landranger maps in miles, and on explorers by halving the landranger mile.

You convert a Metric map, where every single part of the map key and grid is in metric into imperial?
I get working out the metric value and then converting to imperial, but actually reading such a map in imperial just seems completely wasteful.
I've been told that as a rough estimate for walking, you can consider every time you cross a kilometre grid line to be a mile travelled.
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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2021, 07:01:46 pm »
I once spent time on a train in Italy in the company of some Swedish people. We communicated in English.
I spent an evening in a (very good) restaurant in Belgium where everybody was speaking English, but from the accents we were the only English people there.
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Re: MPH or KMH?
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2021, 07:02:20 pm »
Yes, so not Swedish.  ::-)

I wasn't making a point. You triggered a memory, I was being nostalgic. I'm aware that my pointless anecdote is entirely irrelevant to the discussion. I might have added that what I really wanted was to communicate with them in French...

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p.s.  Let me guess, it was around 1990. You were Interrailing.

Close enough.

Next guess....they were very drunk