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Beardy

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Census thread for discussions about the census
« on: March 06, 2021, 01:38:30 pm »
I thought we might as well have a dedicated thread for discussions about the 2021 census because there does seem to be a lot of that clogging up the random thread.

On the census front, the Beardy household is still to receive any communication regarding the completion of the same. But I understand 21st is the formal census date so will await developments.
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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2021, 01:42:08 pm »
My neighbours in the upstairs flat, with whom I share a letterbox, have received theirs.
I have not.

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2021, 02:51:03 pm »
Something arrived yesterday.  It says something about census on the envelope.  It has yet to be interrogated in any detail.

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2021, 03:14:05 pm »
I have the census letter. Haven’t opened it yet.

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2021, 03:31:38 pm »
We got our letter yesterday.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2021, 03:49:54 pm »
Judging by the Random thread, it seems some people are being sent a form to fill in and others are being asked to do it online. I don't know if there's a selection process involved or if this is just random, or perhaps regional? But I do wonder if it's not a comparison trial, to see which type generates a higher response rate or something.
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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2021, 03:57:03 pm »
I had a quick look at this. It seems they will send every household a letter with a code to do it online.
https://census.gov.uk/where-to-find-your-access-code

But:
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If you want to fill out a paper census

You can request a paper census questionnaire to be sent in the post.
https://census.gov.uk/en/request/paper-questionnaire/enter-address/

If you haven't got the internet, you might be able to phone to get the paper census:
https://census.gov.uk/contact-us/

fd3

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2021, 04:09:29 pm »
Arrived and completed. Not identified as Jedi, did identify as European. It was more tedious than necessary.
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citoyen

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2021, 04:53:30 pm »
But I do wonder if it's not a comparison trial, to see which type generates a higher response rate or something.

Response rate might be skewed by receipt rate.

I mean, I’m not going to fill in any form, paper or online, if they don’t send me one.
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hellymedic

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2021, 05:39:44 pm »
Arrived and completed. Not identified as Jedi, did identify as European. It was more tedious than necessary.

I did ours online yesterday. Identified both of us as European. (I don't think we had ANY great-grandparents born in Britain.)

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2021, 05:50:34 pm »
We received an infeasible number of flyers but no sign of any actual census.

Wowbagger

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2021, 05:56:25 pm »
We received a communication this morning giving us access to some onlinery.

I have received a fair amount of censuseering from the British Humanist Association encouraging me to state that I have No Religion.

No pope here! Nor any other denomination of sky-pilot (although TimC would be quite welcome when Things Are Back To Normal).
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2021, 06:05:39 pm »
Arrived and completed. Not identified as Jedi, did identify as European. It was more tedious than necessary.

I did ours online yesterday. Identified both of us as European. (I don't think we had ANY great-grandparents born in Britain.)
Wow! I've no idea where my great-grandparents were born. Well, I can be pretty sure for 4 of them, make a reasonable guess for 2, and the final 2 I really don't know, except that the countries they were born in certainly don't exist in the same form now.

I presume birthplace of great-grandparents isn't an actual question is it?
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2021, 06:07:44 pm »
I had a quick look at this. It seems they will send every household a letter with a code to do it online.
https://census.gov.uk/where-to-find-your-access-code

But:
Quote
If you want to fill out a paper census

You can request a paper census questionnaire to be sent in the post.
https://census.gov.uk/en/request/paper-questionnaire/enter-address/

If you haven't got the internet, you might be able to phone to get the paper census:
https://census.gov.uk/contact-us/
Basil seemed to imply he'd been sent the form on paper, but maybe this a) Wales b) he asked for it and received it quickly c) a misunderstanding on my part.
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meddyg

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2021, 06:14:01 pm »
Yes, I thought of adding 'European.'
But I was born in Kenya, and I thought they might send me back...

My wife's born in Wales to Scottish parents.One Granny N Ireland Presbyterian.
(hence the Irish/EU passport eligibility).

But we're both WHITE, so I guess we're English ?

Let's ask Priti Patel

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2021, 06:31:18 pm »
Arrived and completed. Not identified as Jedi, did identify as European. It was more tedious than necessary.

I did ours online yesterday. Identified both of us as European. (I don't think we had ANY great-grandparents born in Britain.)
I thought you had to do it on the 21st March or just after that date  ???

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2021, 07:16:20 pm »
Yes, I thought of adding 'European.'
But I was born in Kenya, and I thought they might send me back...

My wife's born in Wales to Scottish parents.One Granny N Ireland Presbyterian.
(hence the Irish/EU passport eligibility).

But we're both WHITE, so I guess we're English ?

Let's ask Priti Patel


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Sic transit and all that..

hellymedic

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2021, 08:35:57 pm »
I presume birthplace of great-grandparents isn't an actual question is it?

No, but nationality and ethnicity are.

Thanks for reminding me about countries changing. D's mother was from the South Tyrol. This is in Italy now but was Austria...
D's father is of Turkish and Greek Jewish stock.
My mother is of German Jewish stock and my father's line is mostly Dutch...

We are white-skinned and blue-eyed ?Jewish ?Aryan1 ?Europeans...

1) My mother was described as a 'typical Aryan child' by a German soldier in occupied Copenhagen, during WWII. My German-born grandfather kept a straight face...

offcumden

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2021, 09:05:43 pm »
I have received a fair amount of censuseering from the British Humanist Association encouraging me to state that I have No Religion.

I've had that, too - not that I need to be persuaded.  Must say, I hadn't really thought that much about the implications of people just ticking "C of E" (or whatever) as a default, just because they went through the traditional school system, attended a few christenings, weddings, funerals etc.  Whatever goes on the census form may be used as a justification for policy decisions by lawmakers or others.  More here: https://humanism.org.uk/census-2021/

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2021, 09:08:13 pm »
Are you allow to not answers questions relating to ethnicity, sexual orientation, or nationality?

OK, nationality is simple enough, but ethnicity's a bit vague isn't it?

Is there a list of the census questions online somewhere?

cygnet

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2021, 09:10:13 pm »
Arrived and completed. Not identified as Jedi, did identify as European. It was more tedious than necessary.

I did ours online yesterday. Identified both of us as European. (I don't think we had ANY great-grandparents born in Britain.)
I thought you had to do it on the 21st March or just after that date  ???
If you know who is going to be sleeping in your house on 21 March (I think that's the wording) you can fill it in in advance if you want.

I guess that's an easier decision to reach under lockdown...
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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2021, 09:17:26 pm »
Arrived and completed. Not identified as Jedi, did identify as European. It was more tedious than necessary.

I did ours online yesterday. Identified both of us as European. (I don't think we had ANY great-grandparents born in Britain.)
I thought you had to do it on the 21st March or just after that date  ???
If you know who is going to be sleeping in your house on 21 March (I think that's the wording) you can fill it in in advance if you want.

I guess that's an easier decision to reach under lockdown...


Given my social life at the moment thats an easy prediction  :(
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offcumden

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2021, 09:18:13 pm »

If you know who is going to be sleeping in your house on 21 March (I think that's the wording) you can fill it in in advance if you want.

I guess that's an easier decision to reach under lockdown...

I fully expect to be sleeping in my house on the 21 March . . . but I really can't be sure. Can I?  After all, I may die in the meantime  ::-)

I've always assumed that the census figures indicate who was living where on a certain date - but I suppose it may just represent the situation in, say, March 1 - March 21 inclusive?

FifeingEejit

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Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2021, 09:39:03 pm »
Oh!
Heard nothing
Particularly nothing about the Scottish Census being delayed to 2022!

Re: Census thread for discussions about the census
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2021, 10:06:59 pm »
Scotland: https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/2022

I suppose that raises questions about double- or non-counting if someone moves from England to Scotland or vice versa between now and then, but maybe that doesn't matter as it's simply a snapshot.

Letter with online code received here (SE London) this morning. Complete as for March 21st, whenever you feel you have certainty as to the occupancy on that date; scope to amend if that changes.