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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #100 on: 15 August, 2023, 07:21:20 am »
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #101 on: 15 August, 2023, 07:27:20 am »
It’s now reported that security has had to stepped up in the vicinity of a well known tall building in Pisa.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #102 on: 15 August, 2023, 07:55:40 am »
More cultural vandalism getting its comeuppance:

“Great Musgrave Bridge: 'Steady progress' in concrete removal

 The infilling is estimated to have cost NH £124,000 with a further amount of up to £431,000 said to have been allocated for the removal works.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-66498947
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #103 on: 15 August, 2023, 09:02:34 am »
They've infilled dozens of old railway bridges, often ones that had planned conversions to cycle-walk paths.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #105 on: 16 August, 2023, 09:05:49 am »
Mr Bond, they have a saying in Chicago…
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #106 on: 16 August, 2023, 07:40:30 pm »
Has a crime actually been committed?  It seems on the face of it that the property may have belonged to the people who set fire to it and also demolished it.  Are you allowed to burn your own house down?  Probably there was no insurance, anyway.  And the house wasn't listed, only listing.  Yes, it all stinks to high Heaven but I'll be surprised if any serious prosecutions are brought.  Do you need planning permission to demolish a house?  Probably, yes, so there might be a retrospective case for the council but that might be about it.  I suspect this outfit knows very well what it is doing.  That's why they live in a gated establishment.  Be nice if they were in a different gated establishment, perhaps, with no matches.

Have to say that's some of my thinking - if you own a building can you destroy it? (ignore the method for a moment) - provided it's done safely.    If it was subject to an insurance claim that's obviously fraud . . but if it isn't?     When I had a small farm back in the 1980s I demolished an old barn, nobody seemed bothered.

I guess the question is "do you need unplanning permission to demolish something you own"  and whether arson is a crime.

According to C4 News just now there are special rules for pubs, which need permission for demolition or change of use.  Which in their case they had not got.
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Re: Not Just A Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #107 on: 16 August, 2023, 08:01:58 pm »
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #108 on: 18 August, 2023, 12:54:41 pm »
According to C4 News just now there are special rules for pubs, which need permission for demolition or change of use.  Which in their case they had not got.

This has long been a campaigning issue for CAMRA, who are of the view that it's far too easy for permission to be granted for change of use for pubs - witness the number of pubs that are closing all the time.

Interesting that the owners of the CH had failed in that.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #109 on: 23 August, 2023, 06:00:53 am »


Paranormal society keeps night’s watch on Crooked House pub site



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As large building machinery started arriving on the site of the Crooked House pub on Monday night, fears for the remains of the much-loved building grew – with locals wondering what might happen to it under the cover of darkness.

But one group of people used to staying up all night – the Black Country Paranormal Society – stepped in to guard the site perimeter and make sure all remaining bricks made it to the morning.

“We did some paranormal investigating, and we did capture some stuff. But my main purpose here right now is to make sure there is no further destruction because if we’re trying to get this rebuilt, we don’t want these bricks here being turned to dust,” said Pearkes.

“The wanton destruction we’ve seen has angered me so much, and the people around here are very robust, very honest, we don’t take any nonsense.”

“I think people are worried about what is going to happen to the foundations and the footings – as soon as they touch them, there’s no chance of a rebuild here,” added Kerry Goodman, 36, a fellow protester. “Whatever they do, we want them to do it with care, we don’t want them flinging bricks about.”

While local people carried out their round-the-clock guard of the pub perimeter, the building’s new owner, Carly Taylor, and her husband, Adam Taylor, who is closely linked to the sale, were pictured on holiday at a luxury villa in Corfu, where they allegedly told reporters they were trying to get away from the “lies and bullshit in England”.



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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #110 on: 24 August, 2023, 08:56:52 pm »
Two people arrested:

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Two men have been arrested on suspicion of arson over a fire that tore through the Crooked House pub.
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A 66-year-old man from Dudley and a 33-year-old man from Milton Keynes are being questioned over the fire.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-66608279
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #111 on: 24 August, 2023, 09:19:25 pm »
Reminds me - I must watch "Nice Work" again.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #114 on: 09 September, 2023, 04:35:27 pm »
I drove by the owner's house a couple of days ago.

Sadly, it wasn't on fire.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #115 on: 09 September, 2023, 06:07:47 pm »
Yet............... ;)
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #116 on: 09 September, 2023, 08:17:21 pm »
I drove by the owner's house a couple of days ago.

Sadly, it wasn't on fire.
100% it will have a sex pond and an outdoor TV.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #117 on: 09 September, 2023, 09:48:33 pm »
I drove by the owner's house a couple of days ago.

Sadly, it wasn't on fire.
100% it will have a sex pond and an outdoor TV.

And two Range Rovers.

Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #118 on: 11 September, 2023, 11:14:58 am »
Torygraph is reporting that the owners hired the demolition equipment days before the fire.  Not that bright, then.

Not when Mr Scum owns a company allegedly hiring and selling heavy plant machinery.

The funny thing is, no one around here ever sees these alleged vehicles being moved down the tiny lane from their compound at Lutterworth.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #119 on: 15 September, 2023, 12:59:34 am »
And the latest instalment in the saga: Man held after violence at Crooked House site

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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #120 on: 17 September, 2023, 08:15:03 pm »
Crooked House, crooked people.
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #122 on: 28 September, 2023, 03:50:56 pm »
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #123 on: 28 September, 2023, 05:19:42 pm »
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Re: The Crooked House has burnt down!
« Reply #124 on: 08 November, 2023, 03:51:50 pm »
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.