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Redlight

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Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« on: 10 December, 2017, 12:15:33 pm »
The "Fair Fuel Campaign" - which is basically the ABD with minor celebrities - is running a survey on drivers' frustrations which includes a section on cycling and a rather loaded question about whether cyclists should be subject to greater legislation.  There's also an opportunity to nominate "bad driving" as your biggest frustration.

Unsurprisingly, the questions are phrased in the hope of eliciting the responses that pander to their existing prejudices, so here's your opportunity to give your opinion.

https://www.fairfueluk.com/Christmas/Christmas-Poll.php
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #1 on: 10 December, 2017, 07:14:57 pm »
There is no box to say that there would be benefits for all of us if powered road transport was significantly curtailed. Why is that?

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #2 on: 10 December, 2017, 07:19:26 pm »
As the unofficial YACF petrol (in my own) head.

I am not going to bother to click the link because I am sure it will be full of idiots who do not understand the privilege it is to drive on the road.

Gattopardo

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #3 on: 10 December, 2017, 07:22:21 pm »
I did and I was right.

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #4 on: 10 December, 2017, 07:35:02 pm »
Tried to reply, as a car driver (they'll ignore responses from cyclists) but then couldn't be bothered to think up a false postcode.
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ian

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #5 on: 10 December, 2017, 08:31:18 pm »
On myethnicfriends.com at the moment we're doing a survey asking white people for their thoughts on racism.
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #6 on: 10 December, 2017, 08:55:41 pm »
On myethnicfriends.com at the moment we're doing a survey asking white people for their thoughts on racism.

Is it cos I is white?

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #7 on: 10 December, 2017, 08:59:02 pm »
Tried to reply, as a car driver (they'll ignore responses from cyclists) but then couldn't be bothered to think up a false postcode.

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #8 on: 11 December, 2017, 01:54:23 am »
made a series of appropriate comments about "motorists" behavior ... true on this side of the pond too

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #9 on: 11 December, 2017, 04:32:19 pm »
I don't think I was meant to respond like wot I did.  No star prize :'(
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #10 on: 11 December, 2017, 04:40:24 pm »
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Should cyclists be subject to similar legal requirements as motorists?

Then if you click 'yes' it opens up options about requiring cyclists to wear helmets etc.

Hmm, cyclists are *already* subjected to most of the same legal requirements as motorists (apart from requiring insurance and a licence).
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #11 on: 11 December, 2017, 09:54:32 pm »
We don't have to observe speed limits, either  :)
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #12 on: 11 December, 2017, 10:26:59 pm »
Impressive claim on their home page...

"Since 2010 FairFuelUK has saved drivers over £100bn in planned tax hikes in duty and VAT through constructive and objective campaigning"

Anyway, I shared my views. Several times.

handcyclist

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #13 on: 11 December, 2017, 11:08:50 pm »
Thanks for the headsup.

Tried to be as pro-cyclist driver as I could in my answers - which is the truth after all. Since I could only truthfully select 3 of the reasons for worsening driving conditions, where the minimum allowed is 5, I had to supply some of my own.

Jeremy Clarkson is apparently an acceptable answer.
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #14 on: 12 December, 2017, 12:12:53 am »
Impressive claim on their home page...

"Since 2010 FairFuelUK has saved drivers over £100bn in planned tax hikes in duty and VAT through constructive and objective campaigning"

Anyway, I shared my views. Several times.

I read that as ‘obstructive and invective campaigning’.
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #15 on: 12 December, 2017, 08:39:48 am »
Impressive claim on their home page...

"Since 2010 FairFuelUK has saved drivers over £100bn in planned tax hikes in duty and VAT through constructive and objective campaigning"

Anyway, I shared my views. Several times.
They probably think that means "campaigning for their objectives".
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ian

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #16 on: 12 December, 2017, 09:34:53 am »
Impressive claim on their home page...

"Since 2010 FairFuelUK has saved drivers over £100bn in planned tax hikes in duty and VAT through constructive and objective campaigning"

Anyway, I shared my views. Several times.

To be fair, even if it were true and it obviously isn't, they've cost the country £100bn in tax revenue and in the process shortened and impacted on the quality of lives of thousands.

Bravo, FairfuelUK.
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arabella

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #17 on: 12 December, 2017, 12:30:19 pm »
I answered as if my main transport were train (other)

In my answers I included references to:
Drivers not following the highway code
Motorists harassing other road users instead of focussing on their own driving
Too many people in motor vehicles when they could be in public transport/on foot etc
People not prepared to park sensibly and walk a bit further to their destination
People parking on the pavements so pedestrians have to walk in the road
In the dark, all views are the same.

Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #18 on: 13 December, 2017, 07:48:02 am »
Other frustrations as a motorist: “Self entitled motoring lobby groups blaming others for drivers’ own failings“

 :demon:
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #19 on: 30 December, 2017, 05:58:08 pm »
You'll never guess which paper it ended up in...
(link from road.cc popped up in my feed - I don't read the thing :hand:)
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #20 on: 08 July, 2020, 04:33:01 pm »
They've got a new one - not about cycling, per se, but I do like completing their surveys:

https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5592096/Future-Roads-Plans

MikeFromLFE

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #21 on: 08 July, 2020, 07:46:27 pm »
They've got a new one - not about cycling, per se, but I do like completing their surveys:

https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5592096/Future-Roads-Plans
There's a few 'have you stopped beating your wife' questions in there.
Too many angry people - breathe & relax.

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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #22 on: 09 July, 2020, 03:29:52 pm »
They've got a new one - not about cycling, per se, but I do like completing their surveys:

https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5592096/Future-Roads-Plans
There's a few 'have you stopped beating your wife' questions in there.

DOne it.  I couldn't understand how to change the fines on tax avoidance though.
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Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #23 on: 09 July, 2020, 04:50:10 pm »
They have a response from Robert Puller.

Re: Fair Fuel survey on drivers' frustrations - including cyclists
« Reply #24 on: 09 July, 2020, 05:24:26 pm »
Done it. Great fun.

Any screed which includes the phrase "demonisation of the motorist" is clearly risible.
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