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Title: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 02 October, 2021, 02:22:23 pm
Switch it on. Inaugural women's version.

Lizzie Deignan 2mins ahead with 50k to go  :o
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 02 October, 2021, 02:28:35 pm
Following it on Titter. Early, stones, rain, stones, Lizzy !!!


Running low on nails
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Post by: woollypigs on 02 October, 2021, 02:36:39 pm
I think I broke my F5 button, now using crtl+r ....
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 02 October, 2021, 03:14:09 pm
I think I just bit my finger off instead of the nails there ?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Andrew Br on 02 October, 2021, 03:14:42 pm
Shame Deignan made the move before the TV coverage started  :facepalm:.
I think it's her's to lose now.

ETA: I wish the Eurosport commentator would shut up a bit.

Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Andrew Br on 02 October, 2021, 03:16:47 pm
Ouch :(.

Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 02 October, 2021, 03:27:17 pm
I have done my best to watch women races only, live*,  the last few years and we gotta get more on Live TV. Cause often these races are so much entertaining than the men's

*been lucky that Tour of Britain, Tour de France, Tour de Yorkshire, local road races and Worlds have come through town
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 02 October, 2021, 03:44:17 pm
Beautiful !!!
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Post by: woollypigs on 02 October, 2021, 03:54:53 pm
Men's winner - 30000, women's winner - 1800 (I think I saw) Also the race were over before many "live" TV coverage started ....

https://twitter.com/Gethin76/status/1444314162419601409?s=20
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 02 October, 2021, 11:18:02 pm
fecking heck - https://twitter.com/phillipm61/status/1444416408259948545
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 09:10:40 am
Il pleut! 
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: DuncanM on 03 October, 2021, 09:23:41 am
What a ride from Lizzie.
Interesting that she wasn't the Trek leader today - she hit the front on the first cobbled sector to "protect her leaders", got a gap, and then just stayed out front so her team-mates could get an armchair ride in the bunch. Given the way that Longo Borghini was chasing down attacks, I guess Ellen Van Dijk was their #1.
Chapeaux to Trek for uplifting the prize money from the derisory ASO amount to the same as the men.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: hatler on 03 October, 2021, 09:34:43 am
She's as hard as nails.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: robgul on 03 October, 2021, 11:54:30 am
She's as hard as nails.

You need to be! - I've ridden on the pave stretch at Hem on a touring bike with panniers - an experience to put it mildly.   

What was fun was to ride round the open-air velodrome at Roubaix on the same bike although I did take the panniers off (the site is completely open with no gates and attracts lots of runners and casual riders) - baking is pretty tame compared with London, Manchester or Newport velodromes.
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Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 12:00:51 pm
The pavé beckons... 

https://twitter.com/Paris_Roubaix
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Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 12:32:08 pm
Riders are gradually turning mud colour.   :o :D

Quite a few riders seem to have dark tint specs for some reason.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Pedal Castro on 03 October, 2021, 01:26:55 pm
Impressive braking technique from Laporte!!!
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 01:35:18 pm
Yep, limits of some disc brakes being reached...
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Peter on 03 October, 2021, 01:59:03 pm
She's as hard as nails.

You need to be! - I've ridden on the pave stretch at Hem on a touring bike with panniers - an experience to put it mildly.   

What was fun was to ride round the open-air velodrome at Roubaix on the same bike although I did take the panniers off (the site is completely open with no gates and attracts lots of runners and casual riders) - baking is pretty tame compared with London, Manchester or Newport velodromes.

The baking is only so-so at Manchester velocity but the soup and the coffee are pretty good.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 02:03:24 pm
She's as hard as nails.

You need to be! - I've ridden on the pave stretch at Hem on a touring bike with panniers - an experience to put it mildly.   

...

Thought I'd have a go at Merton St in Oxford a while back, horrible...   :o
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.7515864,-1.250225,3a,64y,277.14h,82.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYCPgj0bODhXi3ZETh57p3A!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 03 October, 2021, 03:00:58 pm
just saw the team car behind Lizzy yesterday drove the last 20km with a flat tyre
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 03 October, 2021, 03:38:44 pm
God doesn't want Moscon to win.

Neither do I  :thumbsup:
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Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 03:43:49 pm
Controversy seems to follow Moscon around - looking at his wiki page...
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 03 October, 2021, 03:59:18 pm
He's a c**t
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 04:04:08 pm
The state of them...

https://twitter.com/Paris_Roubaix/status/1444678395976093705?s=20

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51546138833_b4c2f89fc9.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mwXreB)PXL_20211003_PR (https://flic.kr/p/2mwXreB) by ao (https://www.flickr.com/photos/145942400@N06/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 03 October, 2021, 04:09:17 pm
How is he keeping his shoes so white and clean
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Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 04:19:53 pm
What a race.  What a finish. 
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Post by: Nuncio on 03 October, 2021, 04:23:10 pm
What a celebration.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Hot Flatus on 03 October, 2021, 04:27:49 pm
That'll be the comedown
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Post by: Andrew Br on 03 October, 2021, 04:56:38 pm
God doesn't want Moscon to win.

Neither do I  :thumbsup:

Amen to that.

Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Andrew Br on 03 October, 2021, 04:57:51 pm
He's a c**t

Amen to that as well.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: quixoticgeek on 03 October, 2021, 07:18:53 pm

Watched the hilights. It was very hard to follow who was who as they were all just covered in mud. Today there's lots of crashes, not just the riders, but also at least one team car...

That anyone willing rides the Pavé of Paris Roubaix amazes me. I've done it once on the sportiv. Ye gods it was horrendous.


The women's race still feels like an insult. 5% the prize money for the winner that the men get, and only 116km.

J


Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 03 October, 2021, 08:28:02 pm
And one motor bike camera hit the deck when they slammed on the anchors after a cyclist went down.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: woollypigs on 03 October, 2021, 08:29:29 pm
The women's race still feels like an insult. 5% the prize money for the winner that the men get, and only 116km.

J
Yup. And that is why I make sure I'm out supporting their races to show ASO etc that it would be grand to have their races live and paid well,
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: giropaul on 03 October, 2021, 09:23:20 pm

Watched the hilights. It was very hard to follow who was who as they were all just covered in mud. Today there's lots of crashes, not just the riders, but also at least one team car...

That anyone willing rides the Pavé of Paris Roubaix amazes me. I've done it once on the sportiv. Ye gods it was horrendous.


The women's race still feels like an insult. 5% the prize money for the winner that the men get, and only 116km.

J

It’s reported that Lizzie’s sponsors have made up the shortfall over the men’s prize. I appreciate that this isn’t really the point, but it signals their view.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Andrew Br on 03 October, 2021, 09:37:30 pm




The women's race still feels like an insult. 5% the prize money for the winner that the men get, and only 116km.

J

Add on the TV coverage only starting after the "attack" that eventually decided the race makes it even worse.
Perhaps Deignan should have flagged down a bus and complained  :hand:.

Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: MattH on 03 October, 2021, 10:20:17 pm
Horrible race today. Enjoyed watching it all  :thumbsup:

I've ridden those cobbles on both my bicycle (rode my Roubaix on the Cyclotourisme version a few years back) and motorbike. Both were tricky. Those cameramen standing up on the back with the cobbles being in that condition have balls of steel - I winced many times expecting them to be off.
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Post by: andyoxon on 03 October, 2021, 10:48:13 pm
TV highlights coming up on Quest, 11pm.
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: FifeingEejit on 03 October, 2021, 11:06:21 pm
I have done my best to watch women races only, live*,  the last few years and we gotta get more on Live TV. Cause often these races are so much entertaining than the men's

*been lucky that Tour of Britain, Tour de France, Tour de Yorkshire, local road races and Worlds have come through town

When the Commonwealth road races were in Glasgow I took one look at the entry lists and decided I was going through at silly AM.
Right enough the Womens field was much stronger and provided a much better race for someone standing out in the rain.
The Men's race was crap, in crap weather.  I ate an Irn Bru ice cream cos I was bored and needed something to do.

She's as hard as nails.

You need to be! - I've ridden on the pave stretch at Hem on a touring bike with panniers - an experience to put it mildly.   

What was fun was to ride round the open-air velodrome at Roubaix on the same bike although I did take the panniers off (the site is completely open with no gates and attracts lots of runners and casual riders) - baking is pretty tame compared with London, Manchester or Newport velodromes.

Looks back at pictures from 2014... Vehicle and pedestrian gate open, and I just poked the camera through them...  :-[
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: DuncanM on 05 October, 2021, 11:34:00 am
The women's race still feels like an insult. 5% the prize money for the winner that the men get, and only 116km.
The prize money is an insult, and the lack of full race coverage too. The distance at least has some reasons (ie riding on cobbles works best above a certain speed, if you make the race longer and slower then you actually make the cobbles that much harder). Same for the fact that the route avoided Arenberg - it would have been quite close to the start, and hitting that with a full peleton would have been insanely dangerous.
Hopefully it will evolve to be longer (and the UCI can fix their stupid rule about short races or make exemptions for classics like they do for the men).
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: fimm on 05 October, 2021, 01:51:28 pm
Isn't there a Paris-Roubaix sportive-type-thing for amateurs? How long is it?
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Post by: L CC on 05 October, 2021, 02:09:59 pm
https://www.parisroubaixchallenge.com/en/event/presentation

70 / 107 / 145km

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Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 05 October, 2021, 03:01:17 pm
Also the Paris Roubaix Cyclotourisme, which is a separate event.
https://www.calendrier.dusportif.fr/paris-roubaix-cyclotourisme-02900

I did the 259km option in the early 2000s (2004?). It hurt quite a lot at the time and I still have a small scar caused by my watch.
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Post by: MattH on 05 October, 2021, 06:29:38 pm
The cyclotourisme version I did was 210km.
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 05 October, 2021, 07:03:47 pm
The cyclotourisme version I did was 210km.

I did the shorter version a couple of years ago. It was brutal.

J
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: MattH on 05 October, 2021, 07:48:16 pm
Yes. Four of us rode it, one had to abandon part way because his hands were a bloody mess and he couldn't hold the bars. It must be many times worse riding it under race conditions, especially with the weather on Sunday.
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Post by: quixoticgeek on 05 October, 2021, 07:51:00 pm
Yes. Four of us rode it, one had to abandon part way because his hands were a bloody mess and he couldn't hold the bars. It must be many times worse riding it under race conditions, especially with the weather on Sunday.

I did it with full bike packing luggage on and aero bars. Cos I'm a moron.

On a couple of segments I was following the gutter, and then had to spent 10 minutes picking shrubbery out of my rear drive train. My big mistakes were forgetting my sports bra. And not realising how much my forearms would hurt from the vibration.

J
Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: trekker12 on 07 October, 2021, 09:47:03 am
just saw the team car behind Lizzy yesterday drove the last 20km with a flat tyre

Didn’t see any up close whilst watching the men’s race but I wondered if they had proper mud and gravel rally tyres and sump guards fitted - I certainly would in those conditions
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Post by: Andrew Br on 07 October, 2021, 11:17:23 am
I think Team Sky did that with one of their cars a few years ago. It was more for publicity than anything.
Movistar seem to be using Volvo V60 Cross Countrys. I imagine those would be suitable for the Roubaix roads but not ideal for haring down Alpine passes.

Title: Re: Paris Roubaix 2021
Post by: Mr Larrington on 07 October, 2021, 11:23:01 am
Are Ineo$ not using (prototype) Grenadiers?  Tch!