Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => The Knowledge => OT Knowledge => Topic started by: Canardly on 17 January, 2023, 10:48:40 pm
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Any recommendations for a small hand held that actually works? Mainly for dust removal duties but some more grunt for stairs would be good. We have a Miele for general use, which is very good but far too heavy for the nooks and crannies. Years ago Hoover sold a small hand held cabled model that would have been perfect, but no longer unfortunately.
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Don't search the British Medical Journal for 'Hoover Dustette'...
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Now of course I had to do that. I wasn't really thinking of extra curricular activities Helly. ::-)
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I've got a *checks notes* https://makitauk.com/product/dcl281fzb
It's handheld. It sucks things up, though nowhere near as well as a decent upright. I bought it mainly on the basis that it uses the same batteries as my other power tools, rather than some dedicated battery which will be crap, slow to recharge and/or hard to replace. It's made of plastic, though Makita-quality rather than Dyson-quality. And it's got membrane switches, which will probably be the part that dies first.
Mostly gets used for the stairs, small spillages and sucking up swarf. Occasionally handy for getting gratuitous mud/grass out of hire cars.
As ever, not a recommendation of Makita's battery system if you're a light user (they can brick themselves if allowed to deep discharge). Though by having a vacuum that uses them, it ensures I have reason to charge them regularly.
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Hoover Dustette
I remember one of those gathering dust on the shelf in my grandma's spare room...
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Don't search the British Medical Journal for 'Hoover Dustette'...
Well he did say...
Any recommendations for a small hand held that actually works? Mainly for dust removal duties
Mainly ;)
I remember as an 11 year old perusing my dad's BMJ mag and finding the now legendary report on the sudden influx of penile laceration injuries being presented at A&E and being linked back to the launch of the Hoover Dustette. Turns out it had a set of blades at the other end of the nozzle.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1713722/?page=1
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We've had a dyson handheld for about 10 years. Replaced battery twice in that time (now on non-dyson batteries).
Works ok.
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We have a "Black and Decker PV1820LGB 18 V Lithium-Ion Compact Pivot Vacuum" which is mostly very good and the best we have had. Powerful, good battery capacity and longevity, quick charging. Negatives: loud turbine-like whine, slightly awkward to empty.
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I have an Einhell cordless vac https://www.einhell.co.uk/p/2347120-te-vc-18-li-solo/ for my workshop - like Kim, purchased as it runs on the same battery platform as a number of other power tools. Works very well.
It gets used in the workshop for sawdust etc but Mrs robgul sometimes uses it around the house in nooks and crannies where the (dreadful, over-priced, over-designed) Dyson can't reach. Battery life is pretty good.
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Reminds me of adverts for the Black and Decker Dust Buster.
Never owned one but are you looking for corded or cordless? My concern with all things cordless is YABMB or Yet Another Battery Management Burden.
I was thinking about a small handheld for similar reasons and made a note to see what small corded machines are on the market but my tuits haven't come in yet.
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We have a VAX cordless thing that converts to a hand-held, and that works well.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Vax-OnePWR-Cordless-Vacuum-Cleaner/dp/B083ZY3KFK
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We also have a Dyson which gets occasional use. Though if it died I would probably get a Makita now because I have the batteries and I've fallen out with the Brexity git.
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I was given a Dyson Animal handheld. It wouldn't suck the skin off a rice pudding. My old Black and Decker Pet Dustbuster was better but there's no equivalent new model.
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I had the exact opposite experience. My first hand held was a B&D and it was shit and fell to bits.
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The only practical use of a handheld small battery powered vacuum cleaner is to suck up hairs off the body of an anaesthetised patient on the operating table after shaving the skin prior to surgery. Our orthopaedic surgeon OTP will hopefully be along soon to confirm.
Around the house, they are useless. Not enough suction. I have a Shark battery powered hoover which can be used with a small nozzle in handheld mode, but this is neither small or light (or cheap).
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The only practical use of a handheld small battery powered vacuum cleaner is to suck up hairs off the body of an anaesthetised patient on the operating table after shaving the skin prior to surgery. Our orthopaedic surgeon OTP will hopefully be along soon to confirm.
Around the house, they are useless. Not enough suction. I have a Shark battery powered hoover which can be used with a small nozzle in handheld mode, but this is neither small or light (or cheap).
eh no. We use sticky pads which are like gloves. I would definitely not want to use a vacum machine in a sterile air enclosure as it would just blow bacteria about.
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I had the exact opposite experience. My first hand held was a B&D and it was shit and fell to bits.
To be fair, B&D product lines seem to be random and unrelated. I suspect they buy whatever they fancy from a Shanghai trade show.
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I've got a Vytronix, one of these:
https://vytronix.com/products/vytronix-nibc22-cordless-22-2v-3-in-1-vacuum-cleaner
It's an awful lot better than I expected it to be at the price probably helped by the powered beater bar (as in electric not parasitic off the suction). For the odd whizz to reduce the cat hair here & there or pick up a dry spill it does fine. Fully and easily dismantle-able for cleaning out, the battery is removable and genuine replacements are £23 direct from the manufacturer.
When it comes to the stairs though there's no messing about, it's out with the Miele cat & dog with the narrow carpet beater head. The Vytronix will do daily dust, fluff etc reduction across a few rooms on a charge but it doesn't replace a corded for the fortnightly deep clean.
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I had the exact opposite experience. My first hand held was a B&D and it was shit and fell to bits.
To be fair, B&D product lines seem to be random and unrelated. I suspect they buy whatever they fancy from a Shanghai trade show.
Miss von Brandenburg's old man used to work for a subsidiary of B+D but his bit supplied fasteners to the automotive industry :D
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The only practical use of a handheld small battery powered vacuum cleaner is to suck up hairs off the body of an anaesthetised patient on the operating table after shaving the skin prior to surgery. Our orthopaedic surgeon OTP will hopefully be along soon to confirm.
Around the house, they are useless. Not enough suction. I have a Shark battery powered hoover which can be used with a small nozzle in handheld mode, but this is neither small or light (or cheap).
eh no. We use sticky pads which are like gloves. I would definitely not want to use a vacum machine in a sterile air enclosure as it would just blow bacteria about.
To be fair, that was some years ago. More recently, I think we just used a piece of sticky tape.
This of course means, that there are absolutely no uses for a small, cheap, hand held, battery operated vacuum cleaner 😉
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I've got a *checks notes* https://makitauk.com/product/dcl281fzb
It's handheld. It sucks things up, though nowhere near as well as a decent upright. I bought it mainly on the basis that it uses the same batteries as my other power tools, rather than some dedicated battery which will be crap, slow to recharge and/or hard to replace. It's made of plastic, though Makita-quality rather than Dyson-quality. And it's got membrane switches, which will probably be the part that dies first.
Mostly gets used for the stairs, small spillages and sucking up swarf. Occasionally handy for getting gratuitous mud/grass out of hire cars.
As ever, not a recommendation of Makita's battery system if you're a light user (they can brick themselves if allowed to deep discharge). Though by having a vacuum that uses them, it ensures I have reason to charge them regularly.
Second this, tho I don't think mine's a membrane switch. I have found it incredibly useful, mostly as it's so easy to just grab, rather than taking out the sporn of Cthulhu that is the main vacuum.
J
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I was given a Dyson Animal handheld. It wouldn't suck the skin off a rice pudding.
Surely ideal for your purposes ;)
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I was given a Dyson Animal handheld. It wouldn't suck the skin off a rice pudding.
Surely ideal for your purposes ;)
I'm looking for something that can suck a lawnmower through a garden hose now.
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Shame I just took our last ever Dyson to the tip. It worked every other Saturday when there was an R in the month and the year was divisible by two.
You could have had it for nowt.
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We also have a Dyson which gets occasional use.
Presumably, when it works, you are bagless?
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We bought the hand held "Bosch Home and Garden Cordless Vacuum Cleaner UniversalVac 18" (without 18V battery) recently. Currently £43 without battery on amazon. I already had a power tool with two 1.5Ah Bosch batteries + charger, so didn't get a battery specially, though the vacuum does make fairly short work of the 1.5Ah packs, so may get a 2.5Ah (~£35) or 4Ah. Nicely portable with a range of nozzles, decent filter, battery indicator, decent suction of normal use. The floor/carpet attachment is good for the stairs/light use, but the big vacuum is for the heavy duty jobs. Crevice & brush heads work very well with one of the longer extension pieces...
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71bfMUU-apL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
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the vacuum does make fairly short work of the 1.5Ah packs, so may get a 2.5Ah (~£35) or 4Ah.
Similarly for the Makita. Stands to reason that running a powerful motor continuously gnashes through the charge at a fair rate. It's more like an angle grinder or sander in that respect than a drill or circular saw. (Of course, if you're doing serious vaccuming, you're not using a battery-powered handheld.)
Last time I looked the sweet spot for price:capacity for Makita batteries was 3Ah, so 2.5Ah sounds sensible. I'm of the opinion that larger batteries are only worthwhile if you're away from mains power and don't have to hold the weight of the tool. Two smaller batteries mean you can have one on charge while you use the other, rather than running a bigger one flat and having to wait.
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Troo dat. :)
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OK it's not much help as you can't just go and buy one but I my £15 Lidl cordless is good enough for using at work every day, mainly for sucking up small amounts of sawdust and wood shavings and chips. A corded one would be OK too, and would last longer (no battery to wear out), but I bought what they had.
I even bought a second one for home use, where cordless is actually more useful.
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I have a cordless Shark as my only vacuum cleaner and would definitely recommend it. It's light and compact enough to use on stairs, in the car, on my hard to reach velux windows, etc. Battery lasts over 30 mins, which is enough in my house. It's quiet and pretty effective at pet hair removal. When I had a Dyson Animal I used to need to use a manual tool to scrape pet hair from the carpet. The Shark just does it. The downside is they aren't at all cheap - but you can buy direct from the manufacturer and they often have big discount sales (30-40% off)
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We replaced the Dyson with one of the cheaper Sharks. It's a simpler device, with excellent pick up and doesn't need fixing all the time.
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Are these any good? Shark Wandvac 2.0
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shark-Cordless-Handheld-WV270UK-Lightweight/dp/B09NW6XGB5?th=1
The price is tolerable I suppose <grump>
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Are these any good? Shark Wandvac 2.0
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shark-Cordless-Handheld-WV270UK-Lightweight/dp/B09NW6XGB5?th=1
The price is tolerable I suppose <grump>
If you're spending that much, why not get something like we have - https://www.vax.co.uk/onepwr-blade-4-pet-and-car-vacuum-cleaner. It's probably available cheaper, it's a vacuum plus converts to a (large-ish I guess) hand-held.
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We bought the Shark cordless Handvac Pet (https://www.lakeland.co.uk/46401/shark-handvac-pet-cordless-vacuum-cleaner-ch950ukt) locally primarily for cleaning the car but also it has proven to be excellent for nooks and crannies around the house including cobwebs which seem to proliferate at this time of year.
I also used it for cleaning the tent inner recently.
Charge only lasts 15 to 20 minutes but it does a very good job imo.
I haven't actually tried the pet head yet and probably never will so I have no idea on how using it will affect battery life.
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Are these any good? Shark Wandvac 2.0
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shark-Cordless-Handheld-WV270UK-Lightweight/dp/B09NW6XGB5?th=1
The price is tolerable I suppose <grump>
If you're spending that much, why not get something like we have - https://www.vax.co.uk/onepwr-blade-4-pet-and-car-vacuum-cleaner. It's probably available cheaper, it's a vacuum plus converts to a (large-ish I guess) hand-held.
Undoubtably it would do a good job, but it takes up nearly as much space as our main (corded) vacuum.
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There's a refurbed Shark handheld (not the same model number as you posted tho) on Backmarket for £89 just now, FYI.