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Title: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Really Ancien on 11 February, 2009, 09:10:46 pm
How many have you got?
I've got.
Vauxhall Viva HC.
Norton Twins 1957 to 1970.
Norton Commando.
Leyland Sherpa Van.
Land Rover Series 3.
Land Rover 90, 110 and Defender Models.
Citroen BX.
BMW K100 & 75 2-Valve Models.

Damon.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: gordon taylor on 11 February, 2009, 09:30:36 pm
Vauxhall Corsa
Renault 4
Peugeot 306
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: pcolbeck on 11 February, 2009, 10:07:15 pm
I had quite a few but have been good and thrown away the ones for vehicles I don't own any more

Currently have:

SAAB 9/5
SAAB NG900

Have had:

Honda RS250
Honda 250N/400N
Honda CB900
VW Polo
Range Rover
SAAB 900
Renault Laguna

Strangely I never had one for my Renault 19 or Fiat X19 maybe there is something about cars with 19 in the name (though the Fiat was one of the most unreliable cars I have ever owned).  Have owned a few other motorbikes that I never got a Haynes for as well.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Cunobelin on 11 February, 2009, 10:11:49 pm
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b60/Cunobelin/dalekhaynes.jpg)

Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Wendy on 11 February, 2009, 10:21:38 pm
My Dad had at least 40 or 50, at a guess.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Ian H on 11 February, 2009, 10:27:40 pm
I had one for an Imp. Never owned  an Imp.

The museum at Sparkford is an interesting hotchpotch of vehicles crammed into an industrial building.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 February, 2009, 10:36:14 pm
Every time I've bought one I have included it as a Free Gift for the next owner of the vehicle to which it applies.  The one I had for the Citroen CX might just as well have been written in Sanskrit for all the good it did, though I believe the eventual purchaser of my CX managed to build one good one out of three corpses (mine had had a new engine which cost more than the selling price chiz).

The next time the ["Oiks" - The Invigilator] steal my number plates I'll probably buy the Lancaster one just to stave off boredom while the assembled ASBO-wannabes in Halfrauds spend twenty minutes fathoming the innermost workings of the number plate machine.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: clarion on 11 February, 2009, 10:39:24 pm
Where's Torslanda?
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Jezza on 11 February, 2009, 10:42:03 pm
Classic Saab 900. It's rubbish - the Bentley manual is much better.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Ian H on 11 February, 2009, 10:49:47 pm
Do Haynes produce manuals for modern cars with electronic, computer-controlled everything?
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Rhys W on 11 February, 2009, 11:04:06 pm
Fender Stratocaster.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Really Ancien on 12 February, 2009, 06:36:31 am
The oil stains tell a story, I've never sold a car, they die in my hands, but they live on in the manuals, I can leaf through them and see the skinned knuckles and hear the swearing written in greasy fingerprints, 'ah yes', I think, the time that the clutch slave-cylinder pushrod broke through the actuating arm and I spent two days on my back in the snow. Therein lies the entertainment.

Damon
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Mike J on 12 February, 2009, 07:14:18 am
Citroen BX
Citroen Xantia
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Hummers on 12 February, 2009, 09:10:29 am
Austin Maxi
Austin Mini
Ford Escort (MKII)
VW Polo
Renault 12
Renault Scenic

"Use judicious leverage"

Excellent stuff.

H
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: tiermat on 12 February, 2009, 09:22:41 am
I have the one for Babies, makes entertaining reading!
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Charlotte on 12 February, 2009, 09:24:57 am
I hasten to add that don't own either of these...

(http://www.holden.co.uk/getImage2008.asp?path=e%3A%5Cdomains%5Choldenvc%5Cwww%5Cproductimages%5C096%5F105%2Ejpg&WorH=w&max=300)  (http://malcp.com/images/haynes1.jpg)
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: mike on 12 February, 2009, 09:30:15 am
I got the Man one for christmas a couple of years ago!

Also got the landrover defender and VW polo books.   The landrover one is absolutely filthy, the polo one barely got used.  Yay for german engineering, boo for Solihul.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: rae on 12 February, 2009, 09:36:03 am
Quote
The oil stains tell a story, I've never sold a car, they die in my hands, but they live on in the manuals, I can leaf through them and see the skinned knuckles and hear the swearing written in greasy fingerprints, 'ah yes', I think, the time that the clutch slave-cylinder pushrod broke through the actuating arm and I spent two days on my back in the snow. Therein lies the entertainment. 

The re-written procedures tell stories as well.   My Alfa GTV manual (many oil stains) has the section on cam chain timing crossed out, and the words "don't ever do this again" written in its place.   Stapled in is my re-written procedure for actually getting it right.   That mistake cost me £300 when £300 was real money. 

On the shelf I have:

Land Rover Discovery (bought in a emergency when I had to fix a lucas hot wire ignition system by the road side)
Land Rover Series III - actually a rubbish manual, the proper land rover one is much better)
Daimler Sovreign Series II - again rather poor, the real manual is a god send
Vauxhall Astra (mums old car)
Alfetta GTV (heavily edited).

These days I have an old PC and screen in the garage with the docs on PDF.   Oily keyboard, but easy annotation and clean pages.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: pcolbeck on 12 February, 2009, 11:01:55 am
One of life's mysteries is why the photos in Haynes manuals are under exposed. Is just so that the murkiness of the picture can add to the challenge of the task ?
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Ian H on 12 February, 2009, 11:16:54 am
One of life's mysteries is why the photos in Haynes manuals are under exposed. Is just so that the murkiness of the picture can add to the challenge of the task ?

Poor photography, poor repro and printed on uncoated paper.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: road-runner on 12 February, 2009, 03:59:51 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/MuzjBAq.jpg)
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Bledlow on 12 February, 2009, 04:44:40 pm
This the Haynes manual for our car -

(http://www.haynes.co.uk/wcsstore/HaynesPublishing/images/Bookjackets/150scans/NMP007.jpg)

Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Hummers on 12 February, 2009, 07:04:04 pm
I hasten to add that don't own either of these...

(http://www.holden.co.uk/getImage2008.asp?path=e%3A%5Cdomains%5Choldenvc%5Cwww%5Cproductimages%5C096%5F105%2Ejpg&WorH=w&max=300) 

"Use judicious leverage"

H
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 12 February, 2009, 07:10:39 pm
Austin Maxi
Aaah, fond memories spring up of me watching my Dad riveting on some aluminium plates onto the bottoms of our Maxi doors cos they were going all rusty and bits were falling off.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Hummers on 12 February, 2009, 07:21:53 pm
Austin Maxi
Aaah, fond memories spring up of me watching my Dad riveting on some aluminium plates onto the bottoms of our Maxi doors cos they were going all rusty and bits were falling off.

That is the spirit of the Maxi.

That and fibre glass.


H
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: mike on 12 February, 2009, 07:57:24 pm
BTM100L. That was the reg on our Maxi which we sold when I was about 11, I can remember mum saying 'and now Mike, we're doing **A MILE A MINUTE**!!'

Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Ian H on 12 February, 2009, 08:20:32 pm
My father's first new car was a Maxi. He kept it until the doors turned to lacework. It was an extremely well designed car, rather poorly executed.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Really Ancien on 12 February, 2009, 10:02:37 pm
I only mentioned it here because BBC4 are trailing a season of films next week, with a series of Haynes inspired graphics, here's the line up. Check press for details.

The Joy Of Motoring

 

BBC Four gets behind the wheel for a season of films dedicated to the British love of driving.

 

In The Joy Of Motoring Tristram Hunt explores our love affair with the car, from the post-war golden age to the contemporary disillusionment of today, while actor Richard Wilson rediscovers a motoring history as he drives a range of classic Fifties cars on some of the most beautiful routes in the country in Britain's Best Drives.

 

The season also pays homage to Caravans.

 

For more than 100 years they have been British icons: built in Britain and at the heart of the nation's recreational life. Love or hate them there's no denying their popularity.

 

In The Fast Lady Penelope Keith retraces a journey from London to Liverpool in 1905 by Dorothy Levitt, pioneering Edwardian motoring "It" girl and author of a popular guide for female motorists.

 

Twenty-first-century British life is inconceivable without cars. In Michael Smith's Drivetime the writer and broadcaster asks the fundamental question, how has driving changed us?

 

Other programmes in the season explore how Ford Of Dagenham sold Britain the American dream; and tell the extraordinary story of Rolls-Royce in India in The Maharajah's Cars.

 

Damon.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Marco Stefano on 12 February, 2009, 10:22:08 pm
Thanks to Haynes for gems such as these:

"Remove the clutch in the usual manner."   ???

"Reassembly is the reverse of dismantling."   :-\

Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: pcolbeck on 13 February, 2009, 08:14:27 am
Thanks to Haynes for gems such as these:

"Remove the clutch in the usual manner."   ???

"Reassembly is the reverse of dismantling."   :-\

But they never explain what the reverse of hitting it with a bloody great hammer is.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Cunobelin on 13 February, 2009, 10:20:38 am
Thanks to Haynes for gems such as these:

"Remove the clutch in the usual manner."   ???

"Reassembly is the reverse of dismantling."   :-\

But they never explain what the reverse of hitting it with a bloody great hammer is.

Option 1 - hit it harder
Option 2 Hit it on the opposite side
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Ian H on 13 February, 2009, 10:52:07 am
Not Haynes, but the workshop manual for my old Austin A50 stated that the petrol tank was mounted just below/behind the 'rear light'. It took me a while to work out that the 'rear light' was what the driver looked through via the rear view mirror; as distinct from the rear lamps.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: clarion on 13 February, 2009, 11:24:48 am
I bought the MAN manual for Our Kid.  I think it helped with his PSHE ;D
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Andrew Br on 13 February, 2009, 02:15:47 pm
I've never owned a Haynes manual but I remember helping my dad decipher the text and the pictures on variously a Morris 1100, Hillman Hunter and several Saab 99s.

I do, however, own a repair manual for the Leyland Lynx/Bison/Octopus/Buffalo truck range (500 series and L11 engines). I'm not sure why I have this  :-\



Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Torslanda on 13 February, 2009, 08:31:49 pm
See avatar.  ;D

Also have for :
Ford Cortina III
Ford Consul & Granada
Austin 1100 & 1300
Mini
BMW 2002
Beetle
VW Type 3
VW 411 & 412
Honda Accord (US models)
Vauxhall Magnum & Firenza
Honda CB100-N
Honda MBX125-F
Honda CB125-T Superdream
VW Jetta
VW Passat & Santana

There's probably one or two more . . .

luv'n'stuff

J
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Hummers on 13 February, 2009, 09:34:02 pm
They inspired me to make my own tools on the basis that they said you could do that sort of thing.

Who hasn't tried to make thier own hub puller?

H
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 13 February, 2009, 10:52:57 pm
Maxis were huuge. You could have a party in the back without it being a limo and before people carriers were invented. :)
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Hummers on 14 February, 2009, 01:05:12 am
You could have a shag in the back because the rear seats folded down and made a double bed.

There.

I've said it.

H
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: clarion on 14 February, 2009, 10:55:04 am
Not sure many people used that feature.

How does a Maxi rate as a fanny-magnet? :-\
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Torslanda on 14 February, 2009, 11:09:41 am
Austin Maxi: Fanny Magnet

Afghanistan: Popular tourist destination.

Well. About as likely!

Just on that subject  . . . Warning: Possible urban myth alert.

When the Rover/BL/Austin BMW engineers were viewing the mock-ups of the new Mini they are rumoured to have had two prototypes - one three door short wheel base and a five door LWB model.

Showing the true German sense of humour one wag suggested that if the smaller one was the 'Mini' they could call the larger one the 'Maxi'

Cries of 'NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' from the British contingent. Puzzled stares from the young Germans.

Even if it's not true it's still funny if you're in the car game.

luv'n'stuff

J
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Valiant on 16 February, 2009, 12:36:07 pm
Thanks to Haynes for gems such as these:

"Remove the clutch in the usual manner."   ???

"Reassembly is the reverse of dismantling."   :-\

But they never explain what the reverse of hitting it with a bloody great hammer is.

The answer lies in

(http://www.holden.co.uk/getImage2008.asp?path=e%3A%5Cdomains%5Choldenvc%5Cwww%5Cproductimages%5C096%5F105%2Ejpg&WorH=w&max=300)
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: rogerzilla on 16 February, 2009, 09:04:47 pm
I've had:

Nissan Micra K10
Nissan Micra K11
Citroen AX (which made me realise why no-one ever changes the coolant on the 1.4D)
Skoda Octavia

I never kept the Micra K12 or the Yaris long enough for a manual to come out - they were both disappointing cars (the Micra was too heavy for its engine, the Yaris was badly-built).

There isn't one for the MX-5, just a US Mazda Miata manual which, of course, is for LHD.  I have the Veloce manual instead, which is no great shakes.  The owners' club forum can tell you how to do anything, though.
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: redshift on 11 June, 2009, 05:00:25 pm
*Bump*

Ooh...  for real? (http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=47367&langId=-1)
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: Zipperhead on 11 June, 2009, 07:50:21 pm
*Bump*

Ooh...  for real? (http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=47367&langId=-1)

Well to save waiting for that to be delivered, you could read the NASA version (http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19770078690_1977078690.pdf) right now

Whoops, sorry linky fixie
Title: Re: Haynes Manuals
Post by: chris on 11 June, 2009, 08:57:29 pm
*Bump*

Ooh...  for real? (http://www.haynes.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&productId=47367&langId=-1)

Well to save waiting for that to be delivered, you could read the NASA version (http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19770078690_1977078
690.pdf) right now

Linky no worky.

Try this instead -  NASA version (http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19770078690_1977078690.pdf)