Yet Another Cycling Forum

General Category => On The Road => Topic started by: nuttycyclist on 20 May, 2008, 01:00:25 pm

Title: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: nuttycyclist on 20 May, 2008, 01:00:25 pm
I don't know if this is related to the reduced congestion we've been commenting on or not, but I've started noticing that every day as I get to the bus/cycle lane it is blocked by a bus with its hazard lights on.   It obviously can't be a broken down bus, unless that company has a terrible maintenance schedule, so I am guessing that the bus is ahead of schedule and therefore just waiting.

But, is it acceptable to block a bus/cycle lane whilst stopping on double yellow lines?  A few minutes after this time the lane is outside of its normal operating hours, so therefore (if I'm late) I couldn't even claim that my "cycle" lane was obstructed as it doesn't exist; that lane is just one of three lanes available to all traffic**.

Should I ignore this, or write to the company?






** not that anybody can read the signs.  The other saturday I needed to get two new tyres for the car.  I was able to drive at 30mph (manically looking out for crossing pedestrians) straight past a quarter of a mile of two lanes of queuing drivers, before cutting through the green filter light (they had red) out to the outside lane and past another 0.1 miles of drivers who'd merged early into one lane.  The shop had the car up on jacks and the wheels off and I was watching the traffic I'd passed in that queue come past ;D ::-)
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: Pedaldog. on 20 May, 2008, 08:32:42 pm
How about using the telephone and asking why it's there?
Might be a nice unofficial way to sort it out.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: ian on 20 May, 2008, 09:01:30 pm
It's well known that activating the hazard lights transports any motorist into an alternate reality where the usual rules of parking and driving don't apply. There's little point in complaining, there's no known method to communicate with this alternate reality.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: Greenbank on 20 May, 2008, 11:55:25 pm
It's well known that activating the hazard lights transports any motorist into an alternate reality where the usual rules of parking and driving don't apply. There's little point in complaining, there's no known method to communicate with this alternate reality.

It's because they're called "Parking lights" and allow you to park anywhere, especially in the "Keep Clear" zones outside schools at drop-off/pick-up times.

[EDIT] Other get out clauses for illegal parking seem to be that parking within 10m of a junction (against the advice of HWC Rule 243) is ok if it's right next to a church and you're going to Mass. Two Hail Marys and one Our Father I believe.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: clarion on 21 May, 2008, 08:52:38 am
Yes - I experienced some people leaving church with less than complete love for their neighbour's welfare on Sunday... ::-)
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: spen666 on 21 May, 2008, 11:49:24 am
It's well known that activating the hazard lights transports any motorist into an alternate reality where the usual rules of parking and driving don't apply. There's little point in complaining, there's no known method to communicate with this alternate reality.

It's because they're called "Parking lights" and allow you to park anywhere, especially in the "Keep Clear" zones outside schools at drop-off/pick-up times.

[EDIT] Other get out clauses for illegal parking seem to be that parking within 10m of a junction (against the advice of HWC Rule 243) is ok if it's right next to a church and you're going to Mass. Two Hail Marys and one Our Father I believe.

I think the same applies to Mosques, Chapels, Synagogues, temples etc
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: rogerzilla on 21 May, 2008, 11:57:05 am
It's de rigeur to park opposite T-junctions near us, meaning a very, very sharp right turn out of the minor road onto the wrong side of the major road.  It's not as if they don't have off-road parking, but I appreciate shuffling two cars morning and evening is always problematic.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: hellymedic on 21 May, 2008, 03:11:52 pm
It's well known that activating the hazard lights transports any motorist into an alternate reality where the usual rules of parking and driving don't apply. There's little point in complaining, there's no known method to communicate with this alternate reality.

It's because they're called "Parking lights" and allow you to park anywhere, especially in the "Keep Clear" zones outside schools at drop-off/pick-up times.

[EDIT] Other get out clauses for illegal parking seem to be that parking within 10m of a junction (against the advice of HWC Rule 243) is ok if it's right next to a church and you're going to Mass. Two Hail Marys and one Our Father I believe.

I think the same applies to Mosques, Chapels, Synagogues, temples etc

Orthodox Jews don't drive on the Sabbath and Holy Days. People are seen walking in the street, talking to friends and neighbours, who would have thunk it?

Some who do drive, discreetly park their cars a few streets away from the synagogue so as not to upset the Rabbi. Poor parking would lead to embarrassing complaints, so it seldom happens...
... on the Sabbath.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: fuzzy on 21 May, 2008, 03:40:15 pm
The other clause for dodgy manouvering is 'It is called a drive. if I was supposed to reverse onto my drive it would be called a reverse. it is my drive and I will drive on to it"

I've always thought it faster to revers on and drive off opf a drive. Less waiting around.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: David Martin on 21 May, 2008, 04:42:10 pm
It's well known that activating the hazard lights transports any motorist into an alternate reality where the usual rules of parking and driving don't apply. There's little point in complaining, there's no known method to communicate with this alternate reality.

It's because they're called "Parking lights" and allow you to park anywhere, especially in the "Keep Clear" zones outside schools at drop-off/pick-up times.

[EDIT] Other get out clauses for illegal parking seem to be that parking within 10m of a junction (against the advice of HWC Rule 243) is ok if it's right next to a church and you're going to Mass. Two Hail Marys and one Our Father I believe.

I think the same applies to Mosques, Chapels, Synagogues, temples etc
.. chip shops, laundrettes ...
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: tatanab on 21 May, 2008, 04:42:42 pm
I've always thought it faster to revers on and drive off opf a drive. Less waiting around.
Isn't/wasn't it a legal requirement?  I recall in my driving lessons I was taught never to reverse into the flow of traffic.  I also recall as recently as 20 years ago householders being admonished by the police for reversing into the road.  But that was 20 years ago when parking laws etc were enforced - sometimes at least, like the friend who was visited by a local bobby to talk about his habit of parking opposite a junction.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: Jaded on 21 May, 2008, 05:36:42 pm
177. Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When
using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can.

It used to be 177, but I can't find a downloadable version of the Highway Code to check the new number.
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: Greenbank on 21 May, 2008, 05:40:19 pm
It's rule 201 now.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/index.htm
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: mattc on 21 May, 2008, 05:44:23 pm
It's de rigeur to park opposite T-junctions near us, meaning a very, very sharp right turn out of the minor road onto the wrong side of the major road.  It's not as if they don't have off-road parking, but I appreciate shuffling two cars morning and evening is always problematic.
Was the junction there when they bought the house (and/or 2nd car) ?!?
Title: Re: Blocked bus lane - should I complain?
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 21 May, 2008, 08:15:09 pm

It's because they're called "Parking lights" and allow you to park anywhere, especially in the "Keep Clear" zones outside schools at drop-off/pick-up times.

[EDIT] Other get out clauses for illegal parking seem to be that parking within 10m of a junction (against the advice of HWC Rule 243) is ok if it's right next to a church and you're going to Mass. Two Hail Marys and one Our Father I believe.

I think the same applies to Mosques, Chapels, Synagogues, temples etc
.. chip shops, laundrettes ...
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