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Title: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Attitudeless Badger on 10 September, 2010, 08:27:02 am
The Planet X site is currently offering a 1/3rd of the Pompino Road Sport, ie selling at 399 quid for full bike.  I am somewhat tempted, but not yet convinced.  I have been looking at the Genesis Day One Cross for a while and it seems to me to be what I need, especially with a flip-flop hub as it is quite hilly in the region (plus the orange looks funky, chocolate brown and muddy green don't).  Does the Pompino have a flip-flop hub?  The website just mentions them being 120mm Clincher wheels, made by On One themselves.

Also, are the 28mm tyres sufficient for some basic off road stuff?  The Day One has 35mm tyres, so should be more suited to off-road stuff, but correspondingly is 35mm too much for road use?

Unfortunately, due to location issues, try before you buy is nigh on impossible for me, so all help/comments/recommendations would be gratefully appreciated.   I have read that Pompino sizing can be complicated,which doesn't help the decision.  If it helps, I am around 6ft1, with quite long legs and arms.

PS.  Please don't buy all the larger sizes before I make my mind up  ;)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: border-rider on 10 September, 2010, 08:44:52 am
The wheels on the On-On are way better.  That's a pretty good wheelset. It'll be a double fixed hub, I think, so you can run it as fixed-fixed or fixed-free as you fancy.

At that price I'd say that the Pomp is a steal.

35mm isn't too much for winter road use, but you could always change the tyres on the Pomp if you wanted bigger.  It really depends on the tyre - there are 28s and 28s.

I'd also say that the cantis on the Pomp are a plus for me - mini Vs are a PITA with dropped bars.  I had them on my Pomp and in the end changed them for cantis anyway. 
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: mike on 10 September, 2010, 08:53:15 am
if it helps, I'm 6'2" and ride an XL pomp with a 100mm stem.  (you're very welcome to try it if youre near cambridge)

where are they for 399? That's a great price.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Attitudeless Badger on 10 September, 2010, 08:59:49 am
if it helps, I'm 6'2" and ride an XL pomp with a 100mm stem.  (you're very welcome to try it if youre near cambridge)

where are they for 399? That's a great price.

It does help, but as I am in south eastern France, a try before i buy is not a possible option.

The Planet X website is where I have seen them.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: L CC on 10 September, 2010, 09:02:04 am
OMG. At 399 I could get one for the boy, maybe, as maybe he might let me ride it too. And then he's growing and might get too big for it leaving it in my shed...
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 10 September, 2010, 09:09:45 am
Damn it. I did not need to know that one could buy a blowjob Pompino for £400.

Must. Not. Buy. New. Bike.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Manotea on 10 September, 2010, 09:12:51 am
At that price I'd say that the Pomp is a steal.

I'm dallied with the Pomp in the past and didn't get on with it* but at this price and spec I'd have another go if I could sneak another bike into the house. As MV says, it's a steal.

I've never been a fan of large tyres on a road bike but all that changed when I rode the Seething 600km this summer which featured long stretches of crumbling top dressed roads which rattled me to bits on 25mm tyres. I really envied Chris S on his Pomp running big touring tyres.

*I'm just under 6' and bought a Large. On reflection I needed an XL, especially with the midge bars which were the stock option at the time.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Zipperhead on 10 September, 2010, 02:17:52 pm
Bugger, bugger, bugger, bugger, bugger, bugger.

I don't need another bicycle, but I do like my pompino and it must be about 6 years old now and is very tatty looking, and lots of it has been replaced, and you can get another £30 off by assembling it yourself, so I could get one and put it on the shelf in the garage so that if mine needs something major fixing I would have a spare for commuting.

Bugger, I don't need quandaries like that!
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Attitudeless Badger on 10 September, 2010, 02:28:15 pm
Sorry for posting this; as apparently it is now causing a lot of stress, grief and dilemmas.

Having read this thread and done plenty of googling, my main dilemma is whether to go for Green or Brown..........

Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: mike on 10 September, 2010, 03:17:22 pm
surely nobody would chose a brown one?  I quite like the white...
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: clarion on 10 September, 2010, 03:18:51 pm
A susrprisin number of people went for the brown Langster.  I suppose it was initially an unattractive colour, i.e. less nickable.  But it quickly came to denote Langster, so it had a certain anti-hip.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 10 September, 2010, 03:30:35 pm
A susrprisin number of people went for the brown Langster.  I suppose it was initially an unattractive colour, i.e. less nickable.  But it quickly came to denote Langster, so it had a certain anti-hip.

The only option for the 2007 Langster was the poo brown colour. Maybe this did make it less nickable, but it was certainly still nickable. As I found out to my cost.



Buying a Pompion for £400 makes economoical sense if I commute on it, right? Better than trashing the Ribble with it's expensive 10 speed gears. And I did just get a big fat cheque from the tax man as I'd overpaid, so in effect the bike would be free :-\

[Edit]Planet X website (http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CBOOPMPRS/on-one-pompino-road-sport) is currently saying the Pompion Sport is "Currently unavailable"
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Manotea on 10 September, 2010, 03:43:39 pm
A susrprisin number of people went for the brown Langster.  I suppose it was initially an unattractive colour, i.e. less nickable.  But it quickly came to denote Langster, so it had a certain anti-hip.

The only option for the 2007 Langster was the poo brown colour. Maybe this did make it less nickable, but it was certainly still nickable. As I found out to my cost.



Buying a Pompion for £400 makes economoical sense if I commute on it, right? Better than trashing the Ribble with it's expensive 10 speed gears. And I did just get a big fat cheque from the tax man as I'd overpaid, so in effect the bike would be free :-\

[Edit]Planet X website (http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CBOOPMPRS/on-one-pompino-road-sport) is currently saying the Pompion Sport is "Currently unavailable"

They are on the on-one website.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 10 September, 2010, 03:47:32 pm
Don't tell me that! I was busy accepting I'd missed out.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Chris S on 10 September, 2010, 04:06:02 pm
I really envied Chris S on his Pomp running big touring tyres.

What a difference 3mm makes :).

I've also been running them at a lower pressure - around 80psi. Mmm comfy.

OT - Yes, I too suddenly want to buy a new Pomp - even though, other than a few tatty bits, mine is perfectly fine. How about one of each colour?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: mike on 10 September, 2010, 04:07:41 pm
you could always put an alfine on one of them... (I'm so damn tempted)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 10 September, 2010, 04:08:14 pm
Whoops. Erm, my finger slip.

 ;D
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: border-rider on 10 September, 2010, 04:08:55 pm
I really envied Chris S on his Pomp running big touring tyres.

What a difference 3mm makes :).


I always ran big tyres on mine.  Made it ever so comfy and sure-footed

(http://bosphorus.f2s.com/bikes/audaxbike.jpg)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Chris S on 10 September, 2010, 04:21:58 pm
If only you could get Paselas in black. I'm not a fan of the Pee Wee Herman look :facepalm:.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Zoidburg on 10 September, 2010, 07:20:41 pm
I have black ones.

They are 26" though.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: innesh on 10 September, 2010, 08:05:43 pm

I got a brown Pompino (that sounds extra rude!) earlier this year against my better judgement.  I mean, who rides a brown bike?

But it's a gorgeous colour and I really, really like it.  :thumbsup:  It's a rich chocolatey brown with a hint of sparkle which doesn't show well on pictures, but does 'in the flesh'.

With cream bar tape to match the decals and tan wall tyres it looks very smart in a retro but different sort of way.   

 
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Zoidburg on 10 September, 2010, 08:16:28 pm
I will never ride a bike with the same colour scheme as a Morris 1800.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: pumpkin on 11 September, 2010, 04:36:21 pm
They are still there calling to me. My blue one was s/h and is now looking a bit battered and was tempted to a Condor tempo but £399!!!
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: rogerzilla on 11 September, 2010, 06:30:30 pm
I will never ride a bike with the same colour scheme as a Morris 1800.

Could be (slightly) worse...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Austin_Allegro_Brown_1.JPG

Even has the cream bar tape seats.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: oncemore on 11 September, 2010, 09:05:13 pm
Oh dear, temptation!

On Thursday I was at J o' G - a coach hols tour/trip to Dornoch and The Orkneys - and had a quick chat with a LEJoGer arriving on a Pompino Fixed. Said he'd enjoyed the ride - and had already decided to do it again next year, but on single speed.

And I SO wanted a Pompino again...and now a real A1 5-star bargain.

Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Sigurd Mudtracker on 11 September, 2010, 09:43:06 pm
On-One say Pompinos have 120mm rear dropouts.  A bit of a stretch to fit in a 135mm Alfine hub, surely?

Otherwise I might be tempted - though you could fit a Sturmey 8 speed hub in there (they do a narrow and a wide one)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: oncemore on 11 September, 2010, 09:45:21 pm
Praps they have resurrected some in the original 135 rear geometry? A;lways better IMO/E.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Chris S on 11 September, 2010, 10:15:20 pm
Praps they have resurrected some in the original 135 rear geometry? A;lways better IMO/E.

Dunno about that. My Pomp has 135 OLN, and there are wear marks in the paint where my shoes scuff the stays because they are splayed so much to make that gap.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: L CC on 12 September, 2010, 01:27:11 am
It would appear the offer is too good to miss in this house too. The boy is persuading his dad to cough up for one. In white. Bloody child is insisting on a medium though, and I think that's a tad too big for me. Selfish brat.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: rogerzilla on 12 September, 2010, 09:49:54 am
Praps they have resurrected some in the original 135 rear geometry? A;lways better IMO/E.

Dunno about that. My Pomp has 135 OLN, and there are wear marks in the paint where my shoes scuff the stays because they are splayed so much to make that gap.
I have the same problem with the Inbred.  I put sacrificial vinyl stickers on the RH seatstay to avoid removing the paint.  I think it's the very compact geometry and the wishbone rear end that cause the problem - the stays are in a totally different place to where they would normally be.  Admittedly I am running a 46.5mm chainline when the specified minimum is 50mm, and the cranks have a narrowish Q-factor.  With a HT2 chainset it might not be a problem, but then I couldn't use a Goldtec rear hub.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Attitudeless Badger on 12 September, 2010, 09:50:49 am
Well, I pressed the button over the weekend, for a white one in XL size.  Now to wait for delivery......
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Panoramix on 12 September, 2010, 02:10:26 pm
For those who struggle to justify an upgrade, I could do with a second hand pompino!!!  :demon:
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: bloomers100 on 18 September, 2010, 04:33:41 pm
Anyone got theirs yet?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Zipperhead on 18 September, 2010, 07:29:25 pm
I ended up not ordering one due to my dentist telling me what one tooth is going to cost to sort out :-(
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Attitudeless Badger on 19 September, 2010, 08:48:11 pm
not yet.  waiting eagerly.....
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: longers on 19 September, 2010, 08:50:29 pm
For those who struggle to justify an upgrade, I could do with a second hand pompino!!!  :demon:

I don't know what size you are Panoramix but there's one in the Cycle Chat classifieds section - link here. (http://www.cyclechat.net/topic/69272-fs-on-one-il-pompino/)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Panoramix on 19 September, 2010, 09:24:10 pm
For those who struggle to justify an upgrade, I could do with a second hand pompino!!!  :demon:

I don't know what size you are Panoramix but there's one in the Cycle Chat classifieds section - link here. (http://www.cyclechat.net/topic/69272-fs-on-one-il-pompino/)

Thank you for the tip!

I would think that £275 second hand is on the expensive side?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: longers on 20 September, 2010, 06:21:39 am
I would think that £275 second hand is on the expensive side?
Don't really know about that as they're just under £400 new, but it looks in good nick and the seller is trustworthy in my opinion.

Edit: I'm not on commission, no connection.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 20 September, 2010, 10:29:31 pm
Anyone got theirs yet?

Mine's getting built up tomorrow :thumbsup: By On-One, not me, I hasten to add.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Attitudeless Badger on 21 September, 2010, 09:15:54 am
They must be busy, as I have got to wait til next Monday for mine to be built...
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 21 September, 2010, 04:54:24 pm
They must be busy, as I have got to wait til next Monday for mine to be built...

That prompted me to re-read the email from On-One and it turns out mine will be built on Tuesday 28th Sept. :facepalm: :'(.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Paul on 21 September, 2010, 09:13:34 pm
I don't even like them*, and I'm tempted!

*Though the current version looks a little different to the one I had. Importantly, the fork looks a bit more flexible. The one on mine was very industrial. It was religious in its commitment to passing on every nook and cranny of the road.

However (and luckily), I'm the wrong shape for these frames.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Attitudeless Badger on 29 September, 2010, 11:26:13 am
Well, I pressed the button over the weekend, for a white one in XL size.  Now to wait for delivery......

Just a call from my folks in the UK to say that it has arrived in a great big box. Looks good, apparently, but I'll have to wait another couple of weeks before I get my grubby mitts on it.

For those who are waiting, just to let you know that you may not get any advanced warning from the courier as to when they will turn up.  I had a mail from on-one to say they had dispatched, and the courier would advise on delivery times, but they just turned up.  Fortunately my parents were at home at the time.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 29 September, 2010, 11:04:13 pm
Anyone got theirs yet?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 29 September, 2010, 11:30:42 pm
Hmmm they do a white one ... I'm tempted  :o
Never ridden a fixie though and wouldn't know what sprocket to choose especially as its hilly round here.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 29 September, 2010, 11:39:39 pm
I'd suggest a 19 tooth sprocket because the Pompino comes with a 48 tooth chainring, so that'd give you a ~68 inch gear (See Sheldon Brown's website (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gears/) for a gear calculator.)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 30 September, 2010, 12:28:26 am
Ah nice thanks :)
Would that enable me to get up some lumps without spinning like a demented thing on the downhills?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: YahudaMoon on 30 September, 2010, 01:02:31 am
The Pompino for me would be the caliper brake design with drop handle bars and loads of eyelets for mudguards and stuff, and a 48 x 18 gear, black rims and that light blue frame looks nice with the white bar tape. Though I think I have enough bikes, and money needs spending on the  bikes I have at the moment.
Oh I've not been using my fixed for ages so went out into the heavy traffic for a little commute on the fixed. It was scary ! Need to use the fixed bike more !
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 30 September, 2010, 01:09:52 pm
Would that enable me to get up some lumps without spinning like a demented thing on the downhills?

Should do, yeah. Around 68 to 72 inches is the size that a lot of people seem to use. Unless your name is Teethgrinder. For comparision, I ordered mine with a 18 T cog, which gaves me a 72 inch gear.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: cyclone on 02 October, 2010, 09:23:26 am
Any road tests? typically I've missed the boat this time round.. :-[ but then it's better than a divorce as there are no funds for n+1 :'(
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 02 October, 2010, 11:10:44 am
On-One are still selling them at the £399 mark: click look away now (http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/CBOOPMPRS/on-one-pompino-road-sport#buyoptions).

I've ridden mine a tiny bit around town and it's very nice, tho that's partly because I am enjoying riding a fixed gear bike and the 28 cc tyres. I'll update once I've done some more miles.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: onb on 02 October, 2010, 11:35:02 pm
That was close . :hand:
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 02 October, 2010, 11:40:48 pm
This might be a daft question, but is there a way of working out what the best length stem to order would be without actually trying it? (By measuring my arms or something??)

Must_not_press_buy_button  :o
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 02 October, 2010, 11:46:55 pm
I've now ordered bikes online on two occasions and both times I've taken an educated guess at stem length based on experience. If I got it wrong it isn't too tricky to switch to another stem.

That said, I guess one could measure the length of a current bike (ie top tube + stem) and then compare that figure to the top tube length of the Pompino to give a rough idea how much extra distance one would need - ie how long a stem one would need.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 02 October, 2010, 11:50:04 pm
I've now ordered bikes online on two occasions and both times I've taken an educated guess at stem length based on experience. If I got it wrong it isn't too tricky to switch to another stem.

That said, I guess one could measure the length of a current bike (ie top tube + stem) and then compare that figure to the top tube length of the Pompino to give a rough idea how much extra distance one would need - ie how long a stem one would need.

Thanks! Would I have to make allowances for my current bike having flat bars and the Pomp having drops?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 03 October, 2010, 12:00:37 am
Ah, good point. I didn't think about that 'cos I just assumed all bikes have drops :facepalm:. Yes, that'll need to be taken into account because it's likely you'll find yourself riding on the hoods (ie the brake levers) a lot of the time. On my Pompino the hoods add about another 10 mm to the reach.

Also, remember the whole geometry of the Pompino will be different to your Fuji, so while you may be able to get the same reach on both bikes, they'll probably still feel quite different.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 03 October, 2010, 12:05:03 am
TBH I'm not sure that my Fuji is perfectly set up for me anyway, I've nothing to compare it with being my first decent bike. Like you said though, if I mess up and get the wrong stem I could always replace it later. Of course if I order the Pomp I will need to get it a different saddle, my Fuji came with a mens one and I tried to 'break it in' for about 150 miles before I realised that it just wasn't happening! What a shame Brooks saddles don't come in white.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 03 October, 2010, 12:10:06 am
Ah. Yes. The seatpost and saddle on the Pompino are annoying. It comes with a On One Pivotal seatpost (http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/SPOOPIV/on-one-pivotal-seatpost), which needs a special saddle such as the On One Pivotal Saddle (http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/SAOOPIV/on-one-pivotal-saddle). I wanted to replace it with a conventional saddle, which means I've needed to buy a new seatpost too.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 03 October, 2010, 12:12:41 am
Ah. Yes. The seatpost and saddle on the Pompino are annoying. It comes with a On One Pivotal seatpost (http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/SPOOPIV/on-one-pivotal-seatpost), which needs a special saddle such as the On One Pivotal Saddle (http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/SAOOPIV/on-one-pivotal-saddle). I wanted to replace it with a conventional saddle, which means I've needed to buy a new seatpost too.

 :o this is good to know in advance, I need to add up what the finished bike will cost me I think!

Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Tail End Charlie on 07 October, 2010, 07:46:05 am
I've taken the plunge and bought a Pompino after the frame on my fixie developed a crack. Buying on the internet is just too easy. I knew it was a matter of time when I put it in the shopping basket and thought about it for a couple of days.
Hope the wait for it isn't long - they quote 5-7 days. 
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Tail End Charlie on 17 October, 2010, 09:06:06 pm
The Pompino arrived the other day. On One were very good, e-mails to say it was being built then dispatched, then a text message from the delivery people giving an hour time slot they'd be calling. All very efficient.
Fitted some full mudguards, lights and I was off. Nice bike and good value (although I notice they now gone up a £100), fancy looking wheels and smart looking. Very pleased, although I miss the bike it replaced. (I've talked on other threads about this one, I think I may need therapy).
Must replace the saddle (and seat post as mentioned above) though, I feel like one of Mike Tyson's opponents (battered about the ring).
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Aidan on 17 October, 2010, 09:15:58 pm
TBH I'm not sure that my Fuji is perfectly set up for me anyway, I've nothing to compare it with being my first decent bike. Like you said though, if I mess up and get the wrong stem I could always replace it later. Of course if I order the Pomp I will need to get it a different saddle, my Fuji came with a mens one and I tried to 'break it in' for about 150 miles before I realised that it just wasn't happening! What a shame Brooks saddles don't come in white.


Ahem

Brooks Team Pro White CMWC Tokyo Saddle (http://www.leatherbicyclesaddles.co.uk/brooks-team-pro-white-cmwc-tokyo-saddle-1573-p.asp)


May add to the bikes value somewhat though ;D
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: pumpkin on 17 October, 2010, 09:23:03 pm
Be different. Go to www.mcmwin.com and get white or another colour.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 17 October, 2010, 10:58:57 pm
TBH I'm not sure that my Fuji is perfectly set up for me anyway, I've nothing to compare it with being my first decent bike. Like you said though, if I mess up and get the wrong stem I could always replace it later. Of course if I order the Pomp I will need to get it a different saddle, my Fuji came with a mens one and I tried to 'break it in' for about 150 miles before I realised that it just wasn't happening! What a shame Brooks saddles don't come in white.


Ahem

Brooks Team Pro White CMWC Tokyo Saddle (http://www.leatherbicyclesaddles.co.uk/brooks-team-pro-white-cmwc-tokyo-saddle-1573-p.asp)


May add to the bikes value somewhat though ;D

No use to me although I could afford it, I need a ladies saddle :)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 19 October, 2010, 12:31:00 pm
I'm shopping for bits to go on my new Pompino when it arrives.  

I'd quite like 32mm tyres for commuting as I tend not to spot lumps in the road in the dark.  The frame will take them.  

But I also need 'guards and have my heart set on the SKS ones.  

Would the 35mm 'guards be big enough?  

And will the frame clearance be sufficient for both?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Karla on 19 October, 2010, 12:43:39 pm
I've put 45mm SKS mudguards on mine and they fit fine.  My tyres are Continental City Contact 32, at least I think they're 32.  I'm certainly glad I bought these mudguards instead of the 35mm ones, they'd probably have rubbed the tyres and me up the wrong way.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Tail End Charlie on 19 October, 2010, 05:22:59 pm
I've  got 28mm tyres and have fitted the 35mm SKS guards. For 32mm tyres I'd get the bigger SKS guards.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Frenchie on 21 October, 2010, 01:23:37 pm
The Pompino is a great work bike; not very exciting (the geometry?), but a reliable workhorse for long, slow miles. 28 mm tyres, Schmidt hub and eDelight light, guards, rack... ready for heavy duty winter rides.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: border-rider on 21 October, 2010, 04:29:44 pm
Try pedalling harder ;)

Mine was always quite nippy.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Chris S on 21 October, 2010, 04:51:28 pm
Mine was always quite nippy.

I agree - my Pomp isn't noticeably slower than my Dawes FG conversion, which is lighter, has lighter tyres and is Lotus Green, so should be faster.

It's those odd shape stays - they have some magic effect...
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: border-rider on 21 October, 2010, 04:53:11 pm
It's rigid as fuck

It's about the only one of my bikes that I can't get the BB shell to move side-to-side on when I'm climbing.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Frenchie on 21 October, 2010, 05:34:47 pm
Well the rear end is quite lazy; sorry guys! Maybe my 28 mm commuting tyres do not help? Nice work/distance bike, yes, not one I can get excited about for a fun/fast ride. I do pedal reasonably hard I think, currently electing to do our chaingangs on fixed and being able to take solid turns at the front; I think. I compare agaisnt an uber-rigid and responsive custom bike, but also against a less glamorous Langster.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: julianbramley on 22 October, 2010, 10:56:49 am
Frenchie, I always disagree with you about this, the Pomp is not as slow as you think.....Its because you ride that bastardised track bike half the time!
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 22 October, 2010, 11:05:52 am
They've come back down to £435.  Wish they'd hurry up with mine.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: αdαmsκι on 22 October, 2010, 11:12:10 am
I think the model on sale is now the 2011 version 'cos it's got an integrated bottom bracket with outboard bearings.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 22 October, 2010, 08:20:37 pm
Blimey. I've just got a good deal on an unused frame second hand. I'm going to struggle to build it up for that price.

Still, mine will be unique and have my choice of parts :D
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 01 November, 2010, 02:14:09 pm
I am the proud mother of a MASSIVE CARDBOARD BOX!!!

Squirming with excitement!

SCISSORS!  NOW!!!!!
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 01 November, 2010, 03:16:36 pm
I am the proud mother of a MASSIVE CARDBOARD BOX!!!

Squirming with excitement!

SCISSORS!  NOW!!!!!

w00t! Can we see too?  :D
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Deano on 01 November, 2010, 04:54:00 pm
I am the proud mother of a MASSIVE CARDBOARD BOX!!!

Squirming with excitement!

SCISSORS!  NOW!!!!!

I'm surprised you took the time to post that ;D

So?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 01 November, 2010, 08:56:15 pm
I've got two cardboard boxes and some odd bits ;D

However, I need to start by building my wheels, so it's going to be some time before mine takes shape.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 02 November, 2010, 03:10:17 pm
I am the proud mother of a MASSIVE CARDBOARD BOX!!!


I'm surprised you took the time to post that ;D

So?

It took me ages to open the box.  Savouring the excitement.

It's a lovely looking bike.  The delivery chap told me he's delivered lots of these parcels in Toytown recently, so I'll have to keep my eye out for people who have copied me.   :demon:  The saddle and seat post will have to go, but I expected that - I'll just swap the ones from the tourer.  I've only ridden it round the block a couple of times after adjusting the saddle height,  attaching pedals, etc, as I was at work last night.  I've just missed Uni by being asleep  :-[ so can have a play when I've woken up properly.  But so far so good.  The braking surface on the wheels is completely slick.  Braking using levers is more of a gentle suggestion that perhaps we might slow down now, rather than a means of stopping the bike, but leg braking as well I was fine.  A bit of toe overlap.

We haven't been far enough for me to judge properly, tbh.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 November, 2010, 03:55:51 pm
Are the brakes cantilevers rather than V brakes?

If so, they need careful adjustment to get the best out of them. Mostly getting the pad -- rim distance and the straddle wire position right.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 02 November, 2010, 04:37:09 pm

w00t! Can we see too?  :D

Purty, ain't she?

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/lindagordinho/fixed/Fixed002-1.jpg)

See the shininess of the rim?

(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm310/lindagordinho/fixed/Fixed010.jpg)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 November, 2010, 04:42:33 pm
Oh, those look like empella frogleggs, great brakes.

They are set up wrongly. The straddle wire is far far too long, so you are losing all leverage.

The angle of the straddle wire should be more than 90degrees when the pads contact the rim.

Very purty bike, much much nicer than the blue ones.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 02 November, 2010, 04:52:27 pm
They're PlanetX Frogs Bollox.  Possibly a copy of the empellas?

I think the levers are a factor.  My hands (quite big for a woman, actually) can't get much leverage from the hoods.

I need to get out there and ride, before I can feel what needs to be done.

mrcharly, could you elaborate on the straddle wire thing?  I can't quite see what you mean. If I shorten the straddle wire won't the brakes just engage?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Chris N on 02 November, 2010, 04:56:33 pm
You just need to wear through the top layer of paint/anodising on the rims.  Take it out and get it mucky before fiddling with the brakes.

Nice colour BTW.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Feline on 02 November, 2010, 04:59:21 pm

w00t! Can we see too?  :D

Purty, ain't she?


Yes she certainly is! Oh dear this is making me want one again (I had taken the price rise to be someone telling me I shouldn't get one, but they have come down again now so hmmm!)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 02 November, 2010, 05:05:01 pm
It's a bit fiddly.

There two types of straddle (also called Yoke) wire. If your brakes are like the Mafac/empellas, they will be the simplest design, and have one cable coming down from the brakes to a connection at the yoke. That's the nut shown at the top of the pic below.

What you will need to do is slacken that nut off. Then shorten the yoke until when the pads are on the rims, the yoke makes an angle that's much wider than 90degrees. The pic below shows the sort of angle you need to aim for.

Then adjust the length of wire from the brake to suit - you can have it a bit longer so that the brake pads don't engage until the lever is squeezed shut a bit.

It's a bit fiddly, and a bit of a black art. But trust me, those brakes will work great once set up right, and take much less looking after than dual pivots.

(http://www.sheldonbrown.com/images/canti.gif)

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/cantilever-geometry.html)
Empellas are a copy of Mafacs, so everything comes back to mafac
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 02 November, 2010, 07:19:30 pm
Wow.  Thanks mrcharly.  I'll have a play tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: CrinklyLion on 02 November, 2010, 07:27:53 pm
So when are you bringing her out to play?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Deano on 02 November, 2010, 10:32:54 pm
Reet nice.  So you'll bring it along to the Y(C)PR, then?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 03 November, 2010, 10:09:54 pm
Possibly.  We'll see.  :)  I don't know about trackstanding, mind, there's a lot of toe overlap on that bike.  Specially now it has mudguards.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 03 November, 2010, 10:46:20 pm
Toe overlap isn't really an issue because you can't trackstand with the wheel pointing forwards...
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Deano on 03 November, 2010, 10:50:07 pm
Possibly.  We'll see.  :)  I don't know about trackstanding, mind, there's a lot of toe overlap on that bike.  Specially now it has mudguards.

I must admit, I'm more edgy when trackstanding on my Dave Yates, for that reason.  That has a LOT of toe overlap, though.

Fetch it along anyway - leave the poncy trackstanding to the rest of us.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Frenchie on 22 November, 2010, 05:29:59 pm
Nice colour BTW.

+1
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 22 November, 2010, 05:32:15 pm
I see they're now offering the brand-name Frogglegg empellas as an option.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Frenchie on 22 November, 2010, 05:32:43 pm
Frenchie, I always disagree with you about this, the Pomp is not as slow as you think.....Its because you ride that bastardised track bike half the time!

... that I find my Pompino lazy you mean? Maybe. My ex- (grass) track bike feels a lot nicer to ride though. It just does.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 15 December, 2010, 10:49:02 am
And they've bumped the price back down to £399.99.  Blimey. I got Velox rim tape included with mine tho'.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: kyuss on 15 December, 2010, 01:06:16 pm
I can't afford £400 at the moment but I see they also have a pick n' mix (http://www.on-one.co.uk/news/products/q/date/2010/12/10/pick-n-mix-frame-bundles) thing happening. Pompino frame, fork, choice of bars, saddle, seatpost and tyres for £200. That'll do me.  :thumbsup: Just need to decide if I can pull off the glow in the dark one.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 15 December, 2010, 10:02:10 pm
Definitely couldn't put mine together for £400. Still haven't found time to build the wheels and the bike yet. Maybe I should have bought it complete >:(
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: gene hunt on 15 December, 2010, 11:48:57 pm
Definitely couldn't put mine together for £400. Still haven't found time to build the wheels and the bike yet. Maybe I should have bought it complete >:(

I am in the same boat but at least you can pick your own spec if building it.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 16 December, 2010, 12:28:02 am
That's what I'm telling myself. I did enjoy choosing the parts I wanted, and I will enjoy building it. It's just that one aim was a bike that could take the winter tyres that I have put by and, as I have said before, the snow will probably have gone by the time I get it put together...
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: got on 29 December, 2010, 10:23:24 pm
have already put an order in for a pompino as a belated christmas present to myself and am only coming across this forum now!

having no technical knowledge whatsoever, i was just wondering if there's much playing around to do initially to get it set up properly?

any tips appreciated!

have searched other forums for a consensus on mudguards- are most of you using full sks and drilling them to fit into the wishbone bit? (and are these the chromoplastic sks or the blumels?)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: gene hunt on 29 December, 2010, 11:00:56 pm
have already put an order in for a pompino as a belated christmas present to myself and am only coming across this forum now!

having no technical knowledge whatsoever, i was just wondering if there's much playing around to do initially to get it set up properly?

any tips appreciated!

have searched other forums for a consensus on mudguards- are most of you using full sks and drilling them to fit into the wishbone bit? (and are these the chromoplastic sks or the blumels?)

chromoplastic sks are the ones you need, easy to fit.

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/jmfangio5/Bikes/bikevarious006.jpg)
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: got on 31 December, 2010, 11:25:55 am
lovely looking bike gene, looking forward to getting mine now!

how did you find fitting the chromoplastics? how do they fit onto the frame (at the crown-if that's the correct term). did you drill though the guard and screw it in or just use cable ties?

what can i expect to have to do when i take delivery of the bow too?!

sorry for the inane questions!
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 31 December, 2010, 11:32:59 am
I fitted SKS guards to mine, and used the drill/screw method.  I'm a total fettling numpty and still managed ok.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 31 December, 2010, 01:11:32 pm
I've just fitted SKS by drilling as well. I actually used a sharp scissor point - didn't even bother to get the drill out.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: got on 31 December, 2010, 07:20:40 pm
I've just fitted SKS by drilling as well. I actually used a sharp scissor point - didn't even bother to get the drill out.

sorry about this now, but did you just use the screw provided with the sks to screw it into the frame or did you buy a wee bolt? will prob order the sks to have them on hand for when the bike arrives to put em straight on.

that's provided i can put them on, dopey and all as i am.

any tips on adjustments to the bike when it arrives? been looking at cantilever brake adjustment on sheldon brown but going a bit over my head, so hopefully can manage it. what can i expect to have to put together when bike arrives?

thanks guys!
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: gene hunt on 31 December, 2010, 07:33:51 pm
lovely looking bike gene, looking forward to getting mine now!

how did you find fitting the chromoplastics? how do they fit onto the frame (at the crown-if that's the correct term). did you drill though the guard and screw it in or just use cable ties?

what can i expect to have to do when i take delivery of the bow too?!

sorry for the inane questions!

Drilled the guard, much neater did the same on the Kaffenback as well, the shorter bolt they supply with the mudguards will be ok.

I built it from a frame so adjustments were as I went etc, running v brakes on mine.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 31 December, 2010, 07:34:01 pm
I used one of the bottle cage bolts from the Pompino, which was perfect ;D

I was building from a frame, so I don't know about adjustments that are needed to a complete bike as shipped. I've fitted the headset, built the wheels, and fitted all the parts. I'm using V brakes, not cantilevers.

Cantilevers aren't too hard to adjust, but I've been fiddling with bikes for decades. Sorry not to be more help.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 04 January, 2011, 04:36:05 pm
Not a great shot, but here it is at last:

(http://www.rossall.plus.com/OnOneasbuilt.jpg)

I'll do a better one when there's some decent light.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: LindaG on 04 January, 2011, 04:45:55 pm
That's really very nice, drossall.  The black and green is very classic-looking, more understated than I would have expected.

I suspect you'll be needing those tyres before the winter's out.

Have you played with it much?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: border-rider on 04 January, 2011, 04:49:41 pm
I do like that green.

wasn't sure about the concept but it looks great in real life.  Much better than the old pale blue.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Tail End Charlie on 04 January, 2011, 04:52:24 pm
I like the old pale blue. No-one else had a similar colour in their range so every time you saw one you knew instantly what it was. (I have a white Pomp BTW).
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: border-rider on 04 January, 2011, 04:57:35 pm
True enough.  I've got a c2003 early blue one which I like a lot, it's cheerful, I just think the green is a bit more classy.

When they were rare the blue was a good identifier, as you say.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 04 January, 2011, 05:12:14 pm
I thought green and black would do an understated look. I even managed to get black spokes (at 97% discount!!!) Should possibly have had a black chainset too, but cost was a factor, and I had the chance to get my preferred Stronglight.

I haven't done more than ride up and down the road yet, but tomorrow I'm back to commuting.

Having clearance for winter tyres is one of the aims of building this. I'll probably run a second set of wheels for better weather.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Panoramix on 04 January, 2011, 11:07:12 pm
Are these marathon snow?
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 04 January, 2011, 11:10:52 pm
On mine? They are Marathon Winters (http://www.schwalbe.co.uk/c2-1217-schwalbe-tires-marathon-winter.html).
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Panoramix on 04 January, 2011, 11:17:08 pm
On mine? They are Marathon Winters (http://www.schwalbe.co.uk/c2-1217-schwalbe-tires-marathon-winter.html).

Thanks, so 700x35 I guess.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: drossall on 04 January, 2011, 11:29:57 pm
That's right.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: gene hunt on 04 January, 2011, 11:59:37 pm
Not a great shot, but here it is at last:

(http://www.rossall.plus.com/OnOneasbuilt.jpg)

I'll do a better one when there's some decent light.

Very nice.
Title: Re: Pompinos on Sale - some questions
Post by: Mr Larrington on 05 January, 2011, 11:40:51 am
I like the old pale blue. No-one else had a similar colour in their range so every time you saw one you knew instantly what it was. (I have a white Pomp BTW).

I know a chap in USAnia who has a silver one...