The screen is 2.2" although I think that's the eTrex 10. The 30 has a smaller screen...
Scant details though. I'd be more interested if it had ANT+ comms (to get HR and Power when cycling). Also a pic of any bike mount.
Can't find anything on Garmin's site about them yet.
What are the dimensions? It looks smaller than the current models, or else the screen's got bigger - either would be good.
Will it be able to store more than 500 trackpoints at a punch?
Most importantly, have the improved the joystick knob?
What are the dimensions? It looks smaller than the current models, or else the screen's got bigger - either would be good.
Will it be able to store more than 500 trackpoints at a punch?
Most importantly, have the improved the joystick knob?
I don't know, and don't call me a knob!
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Can't find anything on Garmin's site about them yet.
Still AA powered?
My HCx has suddenly decided to shed its rubber surround >:(
My HCx has suddenly decided to shed its rubber surround >:(
Free replacement unit on the way from Garmin - you can't beat that for good customer service :)
The support person said that Garmin UK know no more than what is on the Garmin site, and that it might be at least 6 months before UK versions arrive.
Did they say Galileo compatibility? Hell yeah. :thumbsup:
If the new Etrex does power data (via ANT+) then I'd be sold, and I'd look to flog on my Edge 705...
Wireless cadence and stuff....
new Vector pedal system next March
To improve development of the user segment, on August 11, 2010, Sergei Ivanov announced a plan to introduce a 25% import duty on all GPS-capable devices, including mobile phones, unless they are compatible with GLONASS. As well, the government is planning to force all car manufacturers in Russia to make cars with GLONASS starting from 2011. This will affect all car makers, including foreign brands like Ford and Toyota, which have car assembly facilities in Russia.[16]
Current GPS and phone baseband chips from major vendors ST-Ericsson,[17] Broadcom[18] and Qualcomm all support GLONASS in combination with GPS. Any import restriction is likely to have little change as most devices shipping worldwide will soon support GLONASS.
Now, can a unit run both its GPS and GLONASS systems together and average the location between them to get really good accuracy?
Highlights include ... and GLONASS (in parallel to GPS) supportKenyeshna Tovaritcsh.
Highlights include ... and GLONASS (in parallel to GPS) supportKenyeshna Tovaritcsh.
But do the GLONASS satellites talk to the NASA-GPS satellites? If not, there could be all sorts of parallax errors (viz: that Bond fillum with Jonathan Price as the media tycoon baddie).
available for sale?
Frere
The manual is now available for download.
http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/eTrex_10-20-30_OM_EN.pdf (http://static.garmincdn.com/pumac/eTrex_10-20-30_OM_EN.pdf)
Its the same mount as is already in use for the Dakota and Oregon amomg others. Stem yes. Bars yes. Secure yes. Fugly yes.
I have owned two AA using GPS units but way prefer my internal batteried 705. It is smaller (because it can be), can be stem mounted, and most importantly doesn't turn off when you go over a bump, unlike the other two.
Everyone has their preferences, but if I could see any advantage to using an eTrex I would use one. I really struggle to see why people use them except for touring with no access to an electricity socket for a few days. I know the Edge units are more expensive, perhaps that is a major factor for some?
You are correct about the similarities, although the 705 has a whole bunch of training facilities and ANT wireless connections to power meters, neither of which I use.
Training? Moi?
You are correct about the similarities, although the 705 has a whole bunch of training facilities and ANT wireless connections to power meters, neither of which I use.
Training? Moi?
Some of us mere mortals need it (training).
etrex30 looks like a worthy replacement for vista hcx. the only slight niggle is that memory card is under the batteries - not very convenient to remove/reinsert when you want to upload your active log files.For the Vista HCx, you can just plug in the cable then set it to mass storage mode. Then you can read the tracks off the card without actually taking the card out of the Vista.
Breaking news, some people in the States have got their new Etrexes in hand.
naughty cross-forum link, scroll down (http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?s=b6f799a0c6cfe64e39385327a32fedf1&showtopic=282370)
Looks sweet - one pic shows 17 bars up on the satellite screen :o
Looking at one of these as my first GPS. Anyone know of a suitable bike mount is available? I think a stem mount would be best for m
Also, will it work with Mac's?
Thanks
Jamie
The standard Garmin mount works well on a stem.
It comes down to whether you like a touchscreen or not IMO. Compass is unecessary on a bike, altimeter is useful though.
I meant the standard mount for the new generation (Dakota, new etrex...)
I meant the standard mount for the new generation (Dakota, new etrex...)Ah, I didn't know that. That's an improvement!
Device is nice and rugged, it is certainly Devon rainproof
Device is nice and rugged, it is certainly Devon rainproof
Have they used something other than rubber band technology for the buttons/grip? It's not entirely clear from the photos.
Interesting, thanks Smurphboy.
Interestingly. I was told by Go Outdoors that they are not in stock yet.
Routing - no Delivery mode, just Car, Bicycle or Pedestrian. But it does have have a 'Prompted' setting like the old Etrex (which my Dak didn't - maybe newer firmware has added this, I don't know).
Generally though there is some stuff that I didn't see on my (early) Dakota - much better 'Tones' handling for example - and some stuff missing - the 'dashboards' aren't so good. The maps menu (to turn maps on and off) is a bit limited - it can't separate out the layers of my combined WorldMap*/Metroguide/OSM/Contours file (the Dakota can, so can the old Etrex) - a different approach will be needed. Pros and cons, as ever.
* The included basemap is as good as WorldMap anyway (not saying a lot!)
BTW - I found your hint/tips page :) - does that pretty much sort out your user interface annoyances, or is there anything else that's still a bit of a nuisance ?
Presumably on the new Etrex if you wanted access to maps with and without contours you'd have to have to generate 2 sets of OSM based maps (ie with/without), lob them both on the sdcard and select between them ? Does the day/night contour colouring still work ? (Dunno how useful that is, I'm just curious..)
The dakota stack maps, so if you get the contours on their own, you can choose to have them on or off by selecting or not the contour map to be displayed.
There is no 'turn preview' any more, and I have turned the 'guidance' text off as it rarely says anything useful IMO.
I mean it lacks the Routing Setup option for 'Next Turn Pop-up' and as far as I can tell it behaves the same as the Etrex HCx would if that option were turned off.
You simply need to create a separate .img file for each map you want to have on board. Then you can select any combination you like.
So for example I have a gmapmetr.img (Metroguide europe), a gmapsosm.img (OSM local), and a gmapcont.img (UK and France/Alps contours) and I can use it with either metroguide or OSM switched off, leaving the contours overlayig the other one. (On the old Etrex, I have all these combined in one gmapsupp.img file and that works fine.)
[edit] I have also turned the basemap 'terrain shading' off - the display is pretty awful with it on (the default is 'auto' which is OK, means it's off at normal working zooms).
The old Etrex can only do the former, the new one can only do the latter. But it's no big deal and the new method is, as you say, straightforward.
......................... When following a Track (as opposed to just having it display on screen) it highlights in magenta so is fairly easy to see. ........................At the risk of sounding pedantic, can I ask if you are talking here of "following" in the sense that you are "navigating" the Track, as opposed to simply displaying the Track as a mere overlay on the map?
Mine's OK but I agree a stuck pixel is poor on a screen so small - OTOH if it's medium-white is it actually visible on any of your normal 'working' screens? I use map or trip computer 99.9% of the time and these both have a near-white background.
BTW - GoOutdoors have a 20% discount code operating at the moment (just for being on their mail list): D20NVB - says 'limited time' but no idea for how long - and you need to pay 5 quid for their discount card (which you can do all in one hit).
(I previously had the etrex vista) and decided to upgrade to this newer version.
Be warned, Garmin will force you to pay for all your mapping again, as only one map is
unlocked to one unit. Although this is tucked away in their T & C's, it has just cost me an
additional £140 to repurchase all my maps. I am now waiting a week for the DVD's to
arrive before the unit is fully functional. I feel as if Garmin have ripped me off as I only
bought the 2012 Europe map back in May when it was released, and less than 6 months
old it is rendered useless and I'm out of pocket.
But there's probably no getting away from the fact that decent off-road/walking map data is going to be from Ordnance Survey for the UK.Or OpenStreetMap. :) I'm serious - have a look at OSM coverage of Evesham and pan west to Worcester, Malvern and the like. Really imprssive amount of footpath coverage - easily of Landranger quality. It's not nationally consistent yet, of course, but you can see which way the wind is blowing.
Ordered the Etrex 20 from Go outdoors on Saturday.Have you decided which maps to buy for it?
They are still waiting to pick it apparently! - they sound kind of lost in the warehouse.
Got the discount highlighted in this thread - thanks folks.
[No - will probably try and fiddle with OSM cycle. But the plan is to use it around Europe sometime so I was maybe thinking of Garmin City Navigator Europe as a back-up.
Have you decided which maps to buy for it?
Took me a while to find this. I thought this display (available on some other models) had been lost in the E30 - but no, here it is.
Predictive profile (when following a Track).
Could you briefly indicate your process (a) to get the planned track onto the machine in the first place (is this the same as a route??) and (b) split the screen with elevation above it? Many thanks.
Does anyone know what the size limit, if any, is for the MicroSD card the 30 will take? I haven't seen any reference to a maximum size, but I don't feel safe in assuming that equates to no limit.