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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: slope on 26 August, 2013, 04:32:43 pm

Title: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: slope on 26 August, 2013, 04:32:43 pm
Sounds like a combination of a blunt saw and a blunt drill? Unlistenable and very poor show  :hand:
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: eck on 26 August, 2013, 04:56:47 pm
It was thanks to ITV4's Tour de France commentaries that I gave up after about four days and sold out to Sky.  ::-)
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: Hillbilly on 26 August, 2013, 05:47:24 pm
ITV4 has Gary Imlach for the introduction and summaries.  Always liked his style, and makes up for the second tier commentary team (I'm presuming that the channel has a limited budget for this, given the profile of the Vuelta compared to the Tour, so can forgive it just to have some coverage on terrestrial digital.  Fingers crossed this edition gets decent viewing figures as then they might also pick up the Giro broadcasting rights).
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: eck on 26 August, 2013, 06:03:53 pm
I've no problem with most of ITV4's team and, yes, Gary Imlach is fine. But nothing and no-one can compensate for the crassness of Phil and/or Paul.  :hand:
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: Hillbilly on 26 August, 2013, 07:17:13 pm
*Reaches for the torture tools*

"Unbelievable Phil, this man is literally reaching into a suitcase of courage and pulling out his shirt of invincibility". 

Just made that up, but I hope you can hear Mr Sherwin blabbing away in your minds ear.

(I've the ITV4 coverage on at the moment.  Lost my attention, which is telling).
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: slope on 26 August, 2013, 07:27:50 pm
This thread is about the ITV4 Vuelta commentary - not Phil and Paul ::-)

And yes Gary Imlach IS fine+
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: Hillbilly on 26 August, 2013, 07:32:29 pm
Only it kind of could be relevant, because Phil and Paul are the equivalent of Saturday's MotD presenters, rather than the ones that present on Sunday (which the Vuelta ones could be viewed as being). 

It's kind of saying the current lot aren't very good, but then again the alternative isn't much better.  That said, I tend to watch the coverage for the pictures, as I can follow the action absent mindedly. 

I have to admit to sometimes setting up the turbo trainer, putting on the coverage, and a bit of motivational music.  Then pretending I'm in the race, matching cadence, switching the difficulty setting depending on whether it's a hilly bit or a fast bit etc (not today though, as my legs are knackered from a long ride).  Surely I'm not the only one  :-[

Anyway.

Why do the helicopters carry microphones in the coverage?  What's the point of that - it's not as if you can hear the whirr of chains or the claps/whistles of the crowd.  Maybe they are hoping from the drama of a "Shloomp, sptsptspt" of a bird strike?
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: eck on 26 August, 2013, 07:53:44 pm
This thread is about the ITV4 Vuelta commentary - not Phil and Paul ::-)

And yes Gary Imlach IS fine+

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But nothing and no-one can compensate for the crassness of Phil and/or Paul.  :hand:

From ITV4 website:
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Presenter Gary Imlach and reporter Matt Rendell are joined by commentators Phil Liggett, Anthony McCrossan and Graham Jones as well as studio guests for the 21-stage cycle race,

So was  mine.  :)
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: Biff on 26 August, 2013, 08:12:06 pm
With his huge knowledge Graham Jones could be a great commentator, and to a certain extent is, but oh so soporific. Lovely guy though, very modest and underestimated as a rider. Met him once and he signed my copy of 'The Foreign Legion'.
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: TheLurker on 26 August, 2013, 09:26:30 pm
Well, I'm still firmly in the "grateful for any crumbs" camp on this _and_ on the TdF coverage featuring P&P.  Hell's teeth it's "free" and it's not as if I could do any better. 
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: David Martin on 26 August, 2013, 10:24:42 pm
Why do the helicopters carry microphones in the coverage?  What's the point of that - it's not as if you can hear the whirr of chains or the claps/whistles of the crowd.  Maybe they are hoping from the drama of a "Shloomp, sptsptspt" of a bird strike?

They don't. It is added later for 'realism' to remind you that it is a heli shot.
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: TimO on 26 August, 2013, 11:58:34 pm
They don't. It is added later for 'realism' to remind you that it is a heli shot.

Indeed, I doubt a mike on a helicopter would sound anything like a helicopter, which most of us don't know anyway.  We just know the sound that helicopters make on TV programs and films!

I though the commentary was OK.  Given the little coverage that cycling gets on UK TV, I'm also happy that it's on at all.  The team is tolerable, which is the best you can expect when ITV (and the Beeb for that matter) aren't likely to be willing to invest much money in cycle presenters.
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: Rhys W on 28 August, 2013, 10:08:46 pm
Like cartoon characters with five fingers, heli shots without heli sounds JUST DOESN'T WORK.
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: LEE on 28 August, 2013, 10:15:46 pm
Well, I'm still firmly in the "grateful for any crumbs" camp on this

Me too.

The OFF button is usually the red one in the top corner of the remote (useful tip for those who don't seem to be able to find it).

I don't like Eastenders so I switch it off. 

The pundits' commentary becomes background noise after a while I find, leaving me to marvel at top pro riders struggling to pedal squares up Spanish hills.
Title: Re: Vuelta ITV4 Commentary
Post by: rafletcher on 29 August, 2013, 11:56:13 am
Well I thought last nights Ligget / Jones commentary was just fine actually.  :)