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Hardening stove enamel
« on: 03 April, 2012, 11:43:21 pm »
I've just received some touch up paint from Mercian. The instructions point out that it's stove enamel, and suggest putting it in front of a heater, as it won't dry naturally. We don't really have much but radiators. Anyone got any tips or experience?

Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #1 on: 04 April, 2012, 08:25:18 am »
I've just received some touch up paint from Mercian. The instructions point out that it's stove enamel, and suggest putting it in front of a heater, as it won't dry naturally. We don't really have much but radiators. Anyone got any tips or experience?

Hairdrier on full heat?

Personally I use nail varnish as touch up. It's available in virtually any colour these days, sticks well and dries naturally.

Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #2 on: 04 April, 2012, 02:53:11 pm »
Funnily enough, there's a few posts elsewhere (CC, bikeradar) from someone else with a Mercian, in 2010. No definite answer, tho' one suggestion was it needed to reach 120 C.

Mebbe coat a small area of some sheet metal and try heating that - a hot air gun set low first, for several minutes, and see if it's hardened, if not then try the next setting up.

You might have to be a bit careful around any transfers, unless they're under some sort of clear coat.


Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #3 on: 04 April, 2012, 03:05:10 pm »
I suggest you phone Mercian, they're usually very helpful.
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Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #4 on: 04 April, 2012, 04:40:39 pm »
Worth a try, but it sounds like Mercian are a bit unsure too:

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16479392

Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #5 on: 04 April, 2012, 09:42:31 pm »
Mercian's suggestions are in my original post, same as in the Bikeradar post. I assume that they find that it works.

I'd have thought that a hair dryer could get the paint hotter than a nearby heater, which is what Mercian suggest.

Good point about transfers though.

Is there a risk of softening existing paint, do you think?

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Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #6 on: 04 April, 2012, 09:47:23 pm »
Can you borrow an IR heat lamp?  that's what they use to bake car paint; not stove enamel, I grant you, but you're not going to be stoving at 200 deg C at home.
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Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #7 on: 04 April, 2012, 10:16:17 pm »
Dunno. I'll have to ask around :)

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Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #8 on: 05 April, 2012, 08:16:03 am »
I recently sprayed the heatsink on my Cyo light with radiator paint.  This dried in about an hour on top on the log burning stove

Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #9 on: 05 April, 2012, 10:39:56 am »
I've got a little pot of enamel-like paint I bought from a model engineering company about 25 years ago. The idea is you paint it on a steam engine boiler then fire the thing up.
( I think I normally lob it on the oven at about 100C, but that's based on the assumption that an engine boiler of water is gonna be about the 100C mark)

I guess the risk to existing paint is if you use something much hotter than it's intended for - just reaching the point at which it hardens shouldn't be a problem, otherwise they've have to get the frames out pretty sharpish, I'd have thought.

BTW - did they really mean it *won't* dry without heat ? - I thought similar sort of enamels needed to dry first, but then cure hard by heating. Might not make any difference on a small spot tho'..


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Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #10 on: 05 April, 2012, 03:17:36 pm »
I've got a little pot of enamel-like paint I bought from a model engineering company about 25 years ago. The idea is you paint it on a steam engine boiler then fire the thing up.
( I think I normally lob it on the oven at about 100C, but that's based on the assumption that an engine boiler of water is gonna be about the 100C mark)
A proper steam locomotive's boiler has the water at about 200 deg C (assuming a working pressure of 220psi as in an Gresley A3).  That would stove it properly.  Of course, the apple-green paint you see is actually on top of the cladding and not on the boiler itself.
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Re: Hardening stove enamel
« Reply #11 on: 05 April, 2012, 04:19:35 pm »
Ah - 'course, it's under pressure...I obviously didn't think about it in too much detail !