Author Topic: PBP Registration website  (Read 29763 times)

FifeingEejit

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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2019, 10:22:50 pm »
If you want to think that getting on promptly at 2300 is "being clever" firstly note that over 400 preregistered in the first hour of 14 Jan (and I think there will be even more worldwide urgency on display on the 28th and a fortnight later), and that an early post upthread suggests @GPS had preregistered by half past eleven. I also surmise that you had a priority (patrician AudaxUK member for 22 months) place on LEL and did not have the fun experience of gaining an entry under server access pressure at one of the three designated times for plebians two years ago.
 http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?lang=en&cat=accueil&page=dernieres_nouvelles
Looks like it's crashed under the strain. I managed to get my pre-registration in, but now can't check it ...

This entry rammy is nothing compared to a certain MTB event I used to do where entries sold out in seconds...
Admittedly with that there was roughly 100 entries available for each of solo, pair and quad plus the requirement to be daft enough to want to head north of Inverness in winter, to ride a bike for 24hrs...

I hear LEL is similar.

Zed43

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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2019, 02:57:56 pm »
Although I did stay awake to register just after midnight I was fairly relaxed, thinking "there can't be 1000's of people who did a 1000km ride in 2018 and of those who did a number will be doing the 80h or 84h anyway". Maybe more people had that attitude and didn't bother to stay up to an inconvenient hour, thereby spreading the load on the webserver. I think the server will be cooking once the registration for 400km riders opens ;D

In contrast, registration for LEL was an ordeal... Personally I wouldn't mind if LEL registration would be staged in the same manner as PBP (without the requirement of riding a SR to finalise registration). But I guess this would be difficult as AudaxUK does not have access to the ACP database for checking the homologation entered as proof.
 
Anyway, I just got an email with a PDF confirming that my pre-registration for a 18:00 start was accepted!  :thumbsup:

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2019, 12:18:30 pm »
^ Yes I also had a choice of my 600 or one with the same number from 2015 which looks like a Californian audax.
ACP doing their bit for recycling I guess.

With all the 1000s presumably now entered there's still 4,700 places left. Its all gonna be fine!
Date   Time limit   Places restantes
18/08   80h00   1074
18/08   90h00   2926
19/08   84h00   738

Dropped a little further with 4,500 ish remaining. Some more relaxed 1000km pre qualifier riders doing their entries over the weekend.

18/08    80h00    1043
18/08    90h00    2781
19/08    84h00    710

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2019, 12:35:53 pm »
Wow... I’d assumed 1000 km was a minority pursuit compared to the other distances.

simonp

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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2019, 12:40:40 pm »
Wow... I’d assumed 1000 km was a minority pursuit compared to the other distances.

Maybe it is...

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2019, 08:57:55 pm »
ACP stats:

2018 homologations

1000km   2431
600km    10569
400km    13067
300km    20333
200km  60599

Well, it is indeed still a minority pursuit....

I'm glad to start next week with late shift

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2019, 09:17:04 pm »
ACP stats:

2018 homologations

1000km   2431
600km    10569
400km    13067
300km    20333
2000km  60599

Well, it is indeed still a minority pursuit....

I'm glad to start next week with late shift

I'm impressed with that number of 2000km riders.  ;)

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2019, 09:34:58 pm »
ACP stats:

2018 homologations

1000km   2431
600km    10569
400km    13067
300km    20333
2000km  60599

Well allowing for the 1200 rides in 2018 and riders who did more than one 1000 the vast majority of riders who did a 1000 brevet have gone on to pre-register already and if the take up from 600 brevet riders is less than half then there will be nothing left for anyone else?  :'(

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2019, 07:26:58 am »
It'd be interesting to compare those stats to previous years (especially 2014, 2010, etc).
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fboab

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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2019, 08:06:32 am »
ACP stats:

2018 homologations

1000km   2431
600km    10569
400km    13067
300km    20333
200km  60599

Well allowing for the 1200 rides in 2018 and riders who did more than one 1000 the vast majority of riders who did a 1000 brevet have gone on to pre-register already and if the take up from 600 brevet riders is less than half then there will be nothing left for anyone else?  :'(

It's unlikely that those 1000km+ riders didn't do a 600... and folks are more likely, at each distance, to do multiple iterations.
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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #60 on: January 22, 2019, 08:11:37 am »
It'd be interesting to compare those stats to previous years (especially 2014, 2010, etc).

http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/download/Resultats2014_06.pdf

http://www.audax-club-parisien.com/download/Result2010.pdf

All in one neat table:-

Year2003004006001000
2010241898854627247101147
20144000512987752855701531
2018605992033313067105692431

Looks like the 600km have almost doubled since 2014. Certainly looks like it's going to be a scramble for anyone who "only" did a 400 in 2018.
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #61 on: January 22, 2019, 08:19:53 am »
Have they said anything about how they’re going to handle attrition of riders who register now but don’t qualify / enter? Presumably there’s going to be a load of places freed up?

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #62 on: January 22, 2019, 08:22:29 am »
I think they just oversell and plan for natural attrition, no need to faff with filling places after the fact if they do this.
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #63 on: January 22, 2019, 09:04:03 am »
It will be interesting to see how the field breaks down by country, as there are no quotas.

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #64 on: January 22, 2019, 09:06:55 am »
Have they said anything about how they’re going to handle attrition of riders who register now but don’t qualify / enter? Presumably there’s going to be a load of places freed up?


All non comleted files will be deleted on june 20th. If new places are available then, it's a free for all.

simonp

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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #65 on: January 22, 2019, 12:51:09 pm »
Even having ridden a 600k last year might not be sufficient if not quick off the mark.

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2019, 12:59:03 pm »
LEL experience tends to point to those with access to trading bots. I wonder if ACP have anything lined up to deal with that?

simonp

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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2019, 01:36:39 pm »
Well I created my account

"With your certificate of 400km you must register from 11/02/2019"



mattc

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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2019, 01:37:32 pm »
Lotteries are the way to go. Unfortunately it adds another layer of work for the organisers.
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Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2019, 01:52:48 pm »
I volunteered to correct English translations in the 2015 report. So I'm familiar with the text. It was pointed out that the volunteers were getting older, and replacements would be hard to find. Might that be amplified if the number of French riders falls? I'll be interested to see what happens.

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2019, 02:15:13 pm »
Of the 2431 riders doing a 1000+km ride world-wide in 2018, 1926 have pre-registered. Some of the 2431 will be 'duplicates' (ie a rider completing a second or more 1000+km ride(s)) - lets assume 200. So the take up rate is 86%.
10,569 600 BRMs were homolgated last year. Assume 2000 went on to ride a 1000+km and another 1000 are duplicates (ie a rider completing a second or more 600km ride(s)). The base for those who can pre-register next (2300 GMT on 27th) is therefore 7,569.
There are (my calculation) 4534 places left - which is a mere 60% of the number whose 2018 600km ride will allow pre-registration in a few days time.
(I have excluded specials from these figures and expect ACP will be keen to include all specials who wish to ride; less than 300 starters in 2011 and 2015.)

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2019, 02:53:35 pm »
I created my account but it is looking now that my 400 will not be enough. Oh bugger.

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2019, 03:07:10 pm »
I wonder if ACP members are assured of a ride?

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2019, 09:32:01 pm »
Not that I know of

Interestingly, in the PBP brochure there's a small opening that the amount of riders can be altered, mainly when the préfecture decides so (so also if the grant the permission to increase the amount of riders).
Now, if enough French randonneurs with relevant contacts in French politics can't get a place due to the increased demand.....

Re: PBP Registration website
« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2019, 10:30:07 pm »
(I have excluded specials from these figures and expect ACP will be keen to include all specials who wish to ride; less than 300 starters in 2011 and 2015.)

Could be a roaring trade in black market stoker seats available!