Author Topic: Brake pad recommendations  (Read 1354 times)

Brake pad recommendations
« on: September 04, 2019, 04:58:09 pm »
Afternoon all,
I've got some poorly performing pads on my old tourer, so looking for some well priced upgrades.
The front brake is the same dual pivot long drop (maybe Sora?) as the rear, and has the oe pads without an issue.
The rear is well adjusted with pretty new/ low miles but never anything as like stopping power. The wheels are the same age and condition (old Mavic ma2's)
So has anyone been blown away by their pads, and willing to share?
Thanks in advance

Kim

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2019, 05:40:05 pm »
Starter for 10: Koolstop Salmon
To ride the Windcheetah, first, you must embrace the cantilever...

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2019, 06:23:54 pm »
^This.

frankly frankie

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2019, 06:25:20 pm »
Blocks.
It's not dark yet but it's getting there.

fuaran

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2019, 06:25:49 pm »
DiscoBrakes. Cheap and work fine.

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2019, 07:42:16 pm »
Blocks.

yes.

In my mind  'Brake Pads' are for disc brakes.  I am happy to refer to the removable part of many brake blocks as an 'insert'. 

FWIW I may be mistaken in this but I have always assumed that implicit in the usage pf 'pad' (as a noun) was the idea of something that is thinner than it is wide; thus 'pad' seems like a daft way of referring to most brake blocks.

cheers

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2019, 08:50:55 am »
Thanks for the cool stop salmon recommendations, and apologies for pad/ block faux Pas, like many here I have a number of bikes and most are pads but this old girl is indeed still rocking blocks.

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2019, 09:23:05 am »
Koolstop salmon

Squeal like a PM at PMQ (without a pig), decent in the wet. Wear quite quickly, but worth the wear rate for the improved stopping in the wet.
<i>Marmite slave</i>

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2019, 09:50:14 am »
if the rear brake is similar to, but  nothing like as good as the front, this is a pretty fair sign that the rear brake cable needs replacement/fettling. Either that or the rim is perhaps subtly contaminated with chain lube.

cheers

zigzag

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2019, 10:01:15 am »
i use koolstop standard (black) on one of the bikes, they have lasted very long time, braking is very good in dry conditions, so so in the wet. rubber compound is quiet and does not eat the brake tracks.

Kim

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2019, 12:53:37 pm »
The dual-compound black/salmon Koolstops seem more consistent than the pure salmon, but I believe those are a V-brake thing.
To ride the Windcheetah, first, you must embrace the cantilever...

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2019, 01:45:20 pm »
I use the koolstop dual compound most of the time.

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2019, 02:01:29 pm »
Following a recommendation from Brucey, I've been pretty "blown away" by how good Swissstop Flash Pro BXP pads blocks are (they look expensive, but are sold in packs of 4, not 2), now have these on my Hewitt Cheviot tourer, my Brompton, and now the Campagnolo-friendly Race Pro BXP version on my new Mercian. They're very good in both wet and dry and run quite clean. Are are these not the right size/shape for your needs?
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FifeingEejit

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2019, 07:23:05 pm »
Shimano disagree with you and say shoe.
But I associate Shoe with Drum brakes and the brake option of last resort.


Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2019, 08:38:25 pm »

But I associate Shoe with Drum brakes and the brake option of last resort.

 ;D
L'enfer, c'est les autos.

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2019, 12:57:01 pm »
well shimano are (not for the first time) wrong.  And everyone is entitled to their own opinions, no matter how aberrant they might be.

cheers

FifeingEejit

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2019, 04:15:53 pm »
The wikiwotsica definition for bicycles is that the shoe is the carrier of the block.
Though that's likely to be as accurate...

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2019, 04:22:06 pm »
You put your brake shoes on your brake feet.  So what are your brake feet?

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2019, 04:27:06 pm »
I tend to use either Koolstop or Swisstop 'rubbery rectangles that insert into my slightly curved but basically rectangular holders that attach to the rest of my mechanical speed retardation devices'

I've found both brands to be excellent performers in the wet and dry, and wear levels are acceptable, there are subtle differences between the exact models though so do check whihc ones you're buying.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2019, 04:29:53 pm »
I'm going to be the voice of contrariness here. I've used Koolstop salmon and found them good but not amazing. I've also used Aztec and Swiss Stop. All are very good in the dry but none are really that impressive in the wet. Swiss Stop perhaps last best but also cost most. I haven't found they squeal, nor do the Aztecs.

As for the pads, blocks or shoes controversy, how about "vehicle retardation friction material"? ;)

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Kim

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Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2019, 08:08:26 pm »
All rim brakes are shit in the wet, all of them.  It's just a matter of anticipating that when you ride, which is a lot easier if you haven't been riding something with disc brakes too recently.

Squealing is as much about the rim, the brake and the bike it's attached to as the pad material.  I've got a KoolStop all-weather pedestrian warning system on the front of my Dawes, and the identical one on the back hardly makes a sound.
To ride the Windcheetah, first, you must embrace the cantilever...

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2019, 04:02:51 pm »
Swissstop Blue were the best I tried. I've gone disc-only now, though, because:

All rim brakes are shit in the wet, all of them.

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2019, 07:15:41 am »
I've just given my 20 year old rims a good clean with the Mavic block; once I've tried them in the wet I'll report back....
Reine de la Fauche


Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2019, 09:09:32 am »
I like BBB TechStop (Tristop for V's), as good as Swisstop Salmon and usually to be found cheaper.

Re: Brake pad recommendations
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2019, 06:04:01 pm »
A silly question I think but, I guess that the cartridge pad holders are not universal ie, my koolstop holders will only take koolstop pads?