Author Topic: The other PBP – Audax in 2020  (Read 2938 times)

LittleWheelsandBig

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The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« on: December 27, 2015, 11:58:49 am »
For 2-6 July 2016, HK and I will be riding the UAF's PBP Audax. It is similar to 2015's PBP Randonneur but the 1200km is ridden as a group led by 'road captains' at 22.5km/h between stops. Four course meals, wine and hotel accommodation are included in the entry fee. The group's luggage is carried by a following car, so there is no need for big bags on our bikes.

More details are available at the UAF website. Helmets are mandatory, as are lights and reflective vests at night. Pre-inscription of 150€ is required by 31 January (late entries, add 30€) and entries close on 31 March (total 630€). The ride jersey is included, of course, and the peloton looks very impressive riding into the finish in matching jerseys.

This video gives a decent idea of what the ride will be like, though the route will be different. Audax, not PBP Randonneur and HK's ride report might be interesting reading.
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Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2016
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2015, 12:31:59 pm »
How many people take part?

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2016
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2015, 12:37:22 pm »
Between 50 and 150 in each start for every 1000+km UAF brevet we've done since 2010. It is difficult to feed and accommodate larger groups without delays. I also think the French highway requirements change as the group size increases - below a certain size, no escort; bigger group, escort car/s; larger again, motorcycle marshals

PBP Audax 2011 had separate starts in July and August to overcome that problem. There were around 200 starters combined.
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2016
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 07:09:21 am »
To assist foreigners towards riding PBP Audax 2016, the UAF has added an English-language entry form. Estranger qualification requirements are somewhat lower than for the French.
http://www.audax-uaf.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/English_pre_registration_Paris-Brest-Paris.pdf
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2016
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2016, 11:03:06 am »
A fairly long slideshow of photos that gives a decent flavour of riding PBP Audax 2016

http://lerandonneurvendomois.blogspot.co.uk/2016/07/paris-brest-paris-audax-2016-en-image.html

The riders came from Australia, Belgium, Britain, France, Sweden and the USA.
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T42

  • Tea tank
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2016
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2016, 11:12:42 am »
:thumbsup:

I followed the whole thing on the UAF's FB page, it looked great. Jacques did a great job.
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2016
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2019, 10:57:25 pm »
PBP Audax has swapped to quadrennial editions, so late June 2020 is your next chance to enjoy the 'other PBP'. Discussions of some previous PBP Audax brevets at https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7055.25
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2019, 07:06:43 pm »
The first details are up for the 2020 PBP Audax. Entries will open to any foreigner who can convince the organisers that they are likely to finish. A previous 1000+km brevet, previous Super Randonneur or a 400 / 600 BRM in 2020 should do it. French folk will need a 200, a 300 and a 400 or 600 UAF as qualifiers in 2020.

Don’t worry if you are a monoglot like me, the main contact Jean-Michel Vincelot is very comfortable with enquiries in English. The other riders and ride crew are welcoming of foreigners and have proved it by coping with me during the last two PBPs Audax. There will be contingents from the UK and USA and no doubt Sweden, Belgium and elsewhere.

http://www.audax-uaf.com/cyclotourisme/paris-brest-paris-2016-2/
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fboab

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Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2019, 12:56:03 pm »
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2019, 02:55:31 pm »
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... ordinary people who had just achieved a pretty extraordinary feat! ...

That sounds a lot like one of the reasons I ride long brevets.
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bludger

  • Randonneur and bargain hunter
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2020, 08:36:38 pm »
A great new video about the ride.

Looks tough! Aerobars verboten!
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Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2020, 10:27:02 pm »
Hmm...

bludger

  • Randonneur and bargain hunter
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2020, 10:29:04 pm »
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T42

  • Tea tank
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2020, 01:56:29 pm »
It's easier than it looks.  The speed is held down to the 22.5 kph average so that you conserve a lot of energy, and you can shelter inside the peloton if it gets windy. When I did it in 2006, the first stage was longer than I had ever cycled, and I was disappointed that the second stage was only 300-odd.  The 300 & 400k qualifiers I had done were far harder.

The main thing to avoid is getting to the back of the pack, particularly in undulating terrain. The concertina effect means that you're forever braking and accelerating again.

In 2006 we had 180 riders:

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bludger

  • Randonneur and bargain hunter
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2020, 02:29:44 pm »
It sounds a bit like how it was at the start of my Belgian 400. We all stuck together for a long time at the start in a big centipede. Is there a Captain who very firmly controls the pace or is it more organic? If you're dropped and have to trundle the remainer of the leg to the control on your own/with others who are 'eliminated' are you 'knocked out' or do you rejoin the next day?
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T42

  • Tea tank
Re: The other PBP – Audax in 2020
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2020, 09:05:21 am »
There's a team of road captains: two up front whom you're not allowed to pass, two at the rear and maybe a couple of whippers-in patrolling the length of the pack.  When I did it the rule was that if you dropped off the end you had to reach the next control within 10 minute of the pack arriving, otherwise you were disqualified. That actually happened to me by mistake: I arrived with the pack but immediately went haring off looking for a loo. Nobody said a thing, but when I got the medal the following January it just said "Souvenir".  I protested and they fixed it.
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: The other PBP %u2013 Audax in 2020
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2020, 03:16:58 pm »
Things have mellowed a little since then.

I and a couple of others tend to hang at the back and pace riders (with flats, etc.) back to the bunch. If we don't quite make it back to the bunch before the next stop, no major dramas, since I/ them are captains so those riders are still with a ride captain. Don't extract the urine though. The intent is to complete the event with the bunch, to schedule.

During Paris-Nice 1000 UAF a few years ago, temperatures >40 degrees meant several overheated folk got pulled off their bikes for stints in the air-conditioned sag wagon before being put back on their bikes for subsequent sections. They got medals but no homologation.
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