Do you have rack mounts on the seat stays? I have a barley held away from my legs by some cord that runs from the saddle loops down to the mounts. Very light weight. Will try to get a photo tomorrow if it's of interest.
Interesting... yes I do have rack mounts on the seat stays. Pics please!
The first pic shows a side on view - so it doesn't hold it as far away as the plastic pipe probably would, and certainly not as far as a bagman, but for me it's enough to be comfortable and that's with a barley, with the ziproll (which I also have but on the handlebars) it would be better. Also of course depends on the position of the rack mounts, mine aren't very far behind the seat post. I could get it further away if the cord went round the bridge but that might mess up my paintwork.
The second pic is a bit more close up to show you how I threaded the cord - I went through the straps attaching the bag to the saddle loops, but I guess you could go through the loops directly.
At the seat stay end, it's a domed head setscrew, with two oversize washers, separated by a spacer (which may have been off a V brake fitting) to make neat thing to slip the cord loop over and retain it. Cord is just tied with my best bowline - I did mean to do a proper eyelet whipping but couldn't be bothered.
Only suitable for lightweight bags, but in itself also very light.
IMG_20220331_153646 by
CF1960, on Flickr
IMG_20220331_153640 by
CF1960, on Flickr