Author Topic: Vino back to Astana  (Read 5633 times)

simonp

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Re: Vino back to Astana
« Reply #75 on: July 12, 2009, 12:34:17 am »
And baseball.

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Re: Vino back to Astana
« Reply #76 on: August 03, 2009, 02:23:12 pm »
Whatever people think about Vino, he's served his required two year ban* and his first race back will be tomorrow.

* I'm not saying that I agree with this, but those are the rules.
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rdaviesb

Re: Vino back to Astana
« Reply #77 on: August 24, 2009, 11:38:39 pm »
Whatever people think about Vino, he's served his required two year ban* and his first race back will be tomorrow.

* I'm not saying that I agree with this, but those are the rules.

You are right, but I still do not like this. He's not even got the honour to admit what he did (and there is not a shred of doubt....)

The bad boy is back.



citoyen

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Re: Vino back to Astana
« Reply #78 on: August 25, 2009, 09:45:05 am »
He's not even got the honour to admit what he did (and there is not a shred of doubt....)

This is, of course, the biggest difference between him and Millar, and why the two should be treated differently.

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LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Vino back to Astana
« Reply #79 on: August 25, 2009, 01:03:41 pm »
So if Vino had cried crocodile tears, that would be better?
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citoyen

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Re: Vino back to Astana
« Reply #80 on: August 25, 2009, 06:43:37 pm »
So if Vino had cried crocodile tears, that would be better?

Of course not. But genuine contrition and reform are a different matter.

I suppose it comes down to notions of justice and the purpose of punishment. You've stated your position before and I don't expect to be able to change your mind, but I stand firm in my belief that Millar is a reformed character and for me that's good enough reason to welcome him back into the sport.

The rules say Vino has served his punishment and is therefore entitled to compete again, but I don't believe he is a reformed character, so I don't feel so welcoming towards him.

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