The RANT thread (often contains fruity language)

[Cudzoziemiec]

https://youtu.be/cMrS9_4XyYI?si=-fcFfdb04liRYwp6

 

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[HTFB]

Myself.

FUCK OFF

Genesis 22:16




In which God says "By Myself have I sworn". As L CC has also just done, right there.

[Beardy]

Myself.

FUCK OFF

Genesis 2:16


In which God says "By Myself have I sworn". As L CC has also just done, right there.

I read it as that initially as well, but on subsequent reading I beleive that L CC was ranting about language use, and in particular using myself in place of me or I.

ETA ; on further reflection I suspect you might have snipped for comic effect.   

[Regulator]

Myself.

FUCK OFF

Genesis 2:16






In which God says "By Myself have I sworn". As L CC has also just done, right there.

*Ahem*

I think you mean Genesis 22:16... although arguably Isaiah 45:23 would be more fitting in this case.

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By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked:

Although I'd suggest that Genesis 2:18 is quite apt in the argument around 'me, myself and I'  as well.   

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18 The LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone

[PaulF]

Myself.

FUCK OFF

It just makes you look like the ignorant tossbucket you are.

The only time you should be using that word is with by.

Look at the sentence. Take out 'and David'. Even you are not stupid enough to type. Myself will be with you. Writing I, or, god forbid, me, where appropriate is not informal, it's accurate. No one is impressed by you using myself, except, well, yourself¹. YOU FUCKER.


HAHAHAHA. See what I did there. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOURSELF.

Speaking for myself I believe it's also correct when used a reflexive pronoun

[HTFB]

*Ahem*

I think you mean Genesis 22:16... although arguably Isaiah 45:23 would be more fitting in this case.

Well, that typo spoiled my joke utterly. Corrected.

[Jasmine]

I am completely with you on this one LCC. It pisses me off to the point of being unable to concentrate on any part of the meaning. My colleagues do it to sound official, without realising that it just sounds ignorant as fuck.

https://youtu.be/cMrS9_4XyYI?si=-fcFfdb04liRYwp6

 
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Ironically, when I clicked that, the pre-video advert was for Grammarly. If LCC's colleague used Grammarly, we wouldn't have this problem.

[Kim]

I am completely with you on this one LCC. It pisses me off to the point of being unable to concentrate on any part of the meaning. My colleagues do it to sound official, without realising that it just sounds ignorant as fuck.

This.  It's a special kind of affected officialdom that pointy-shoed mistake agents, sales-weasels and similar delight in.  Often when they're advicing(sic) you of things.

It annoys me more that Young People who write everything like it's an SMS.  Which is probably the wrong way round, because at least they're making an effort.

[Cudzoziemiec]

Yes, it's formality by syllable count.
"Myself and David have engaged in telephonic communication with the aforementioned suppliant with a view to obtaining a reduced purchase price of the supplies in question that are under discussion"
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"Dave and I called the supplier to ask for a discount".

[barakta]

The 'myself' and 'yourself' ing is ENDEMIC in universities.

Usually by non-Englishy academic staff who think it's more accurate but makes them sound like pretentious wankers. Even NICE people do it, I grind my teeth every time and resolve to avoid getting sucked into myselfing myself.

I remind myself of what linguisticy people say "If you understood the meaning, then it's OK" and everything else is just snootery of some kind, even if I DO think it's justified snootery. Like people who use utilise instead of use...

[Jaded]

Its all to much.

[Mr Larrington]

Yes, it's formality by syllable count.
"Myself and David have engaged in telephonic communication with the aforementioned suppliant with a view to obtaining a reduced purchase price of the supplies in question that are under discussion"
v
"Dave and I called the supplier to ask for a discount".

That’s veering towards Ronspeak territory

[tatanab]

I remember when myself etc started to be used.  It was about 2004, at least where I worked (private sector).  Since the advent of email, there had been a search for an appropriate sign off.  For many years "regards" was chosen, but then "kind regards" sneaked in.  Why you would write such an ending on business email is beyond me.  The same trendy folks, not necessarily youngsters, started using myself and yourself etc at the same time.  Hence their usage has been around for 20 years or so, and there must be many people who think such things are correct.  Must of  been taught that at school.

[Jurek]

I remember when myself etc started to be used.  It was about 2004, at least where I worked (private sector).  Since the advent of email, there had been a search for an appropriate sign off.  For many years "regards" was chosen, but then "kind regards" sneaked in.  Why you would write such an ending on business email is beyond me.  The same trendy folks, not necessarily youngsters, started using myself and yourself etc at the same time.  Hence their usage has been around for 20 years or so, and there must be many people who think such things are correct.  Must of  been taught that at school.

A very valid point.
Tomorrow, I shall remove the word 'kind' from the 'kind regards' signature on my work emails.

[Kim]

Yes, it's formality by syllable count.
"Myself and David have engaged in telephonic communication with the aforementioned suppliant with a view to obtaining a reduced purchase price of the supplies in question that are under discussion"
v
"Dave and I called the supplier to ask for a discount".

That’s veering towards Ronspeak territory

I was thinking Sir Humphrey...

[barakta]

Email signoffs are HARRRRD. I use "best regards" or "all the best" as "yours" feels too formal.

I work with young people (mostly) in a university and it's clear some of them haven't been taught or learned how to do basic polite emails (or any kind of correspondence with an organisation to get a thing done).

Some students are barely literate in emails, 1 liners, 3 words. No hello/goodbye. I can understand why some academic staff get very narky cos the students don't have email-etiquette at all and can do things like start sending chaser emails after 20 minutes, demanding replies to 2am or Sunday night emails in minutes, or just make demands with no please/thx or salutations.

I actually think the uni should teach email-etiquette and get students to think about who they are writing to, how they wish to be perceived, what is and is not polite and where those 'ranges' might be, and what clues they can find to identify what is/isn't polite.

I started in the workplace where computers and emails were still newish and as someone with mid-90s Internet/netiquette skills, I looked at people's emails carefully to identify cultural norms, what is/isn't polite etc. I make a point of being more polite than not, especially if I am emailing someone I don't know. I don't think that's a skill that is passed on to some people these days either.

[SteveC]

I have been tempted to use one of those very over the top obsequious Victorian things as a work email signature. "I beg leave to remain your humble and obedient servant" (or preferably even more flowery).

I do find 'kind regards' on an email from a friend rather weird.

[Feanor]

In work e-mails amongst people I know well, I just sign off with my initial, which gives a somewhat regal tone.

R.

[Beardy]

I always used kind regards as a sign-off unless you started to piss me off in which case it was just regards.

On email chains between friends I’ll just sign off with my name. 

Dr Beardy is much more flowery with All best regards , usually with some preamble which I forget. 

[Pingu]

I always used 'Regards'. People could make up their own minds whether they were kind or not.

[Basil]

I always used 'Regards'. People could make up their own minds whether they were kind or not.

This. (At work)

[mrcharly-YHT]

I once got in serious trouble (disciplinary hearing) at work, because I didn't say 'please' and 'thank you' in an email.

I'd written to the HR bod (only one, small company), asking for something. Can't remember exact wording, but it was something like:

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Could you send me a copy of YYYY? I need this by XXXX

Someone had to explain to her that terse language was perfectly normal in emails.

[Regulator]

I always used 'Regards'. People could make up their own minds whether they were kind or not.

Same here.  ‘Kind regards ‘ sounds too informal.

[L CC]

I very rarely give regards.

Mostly my emails are

Please could you do X

Thanks

I specialise in "posh and angry" though, claim my colleagues.

[orienteer]

It's the initial greeting that bothers me.

Hate the USAnian Hi, but Dear sounds hypocritically old-fashioned.

Usually sign off with Cheers.