Author Topic: Golite Shangri-La 3 and Nest  (Read 5223 times)

Golite Shangri-La 3 and Nest
« on: August 07, 2010, 01:29:07 pm »
I've used an Akto for the last 9 years or so, but recently I've been having a bit of neck discomfort after riding, and wanted something I could sit upright in without having to crane my head forward.

I used this for the camp on Dunwich Beach (Camp Earwig) and for 5 nights afterward whilst touring around Suffolk and into Norfolk.   Weather was damp , though winds were moderate. 

It's intended as a modular design, you can use the flysheet alone as a high tech tarp, with their own hexagonal tray groundsheet or with the full size Nest, which is an inner made of mosquito netting.

Manufacturers specs are :

Shangri-La 3 weight : 24 oz / 680 g
Nest weight : 28 oz / 794 g
pole weight: 12oz / 340g
stake weight: 3oz / 85g

Total weight for this combination - 67oz = 4.2lbs = 1.9Kg

I'd been warned that the ground on Dunwich Beach was not good for tentpegs, hence I used my own pegs which are longer and heavier than the Golite ones. I also used additional pegs in the middle of the large panels to ensure a taut pitch and a baseplate for the pole (see video below)

Pitching is easy when using the Nest.  Lay it out on the ground, peg opposite corners out until you have a taut hexagon, then assemble the pole crawl inside the nest and raise it to a vertical position. The Apex of the nest, and the middle of the floor where the pole goes are strongly reinforced.

The pole has a locking, sliding adjustment mechanism.  You can only use the first 2-3 notches of this when using the Nest. I think the remainder come into play if you are using the outer only.

Throw the outer over the assembled nest, connect the 2 using the fitted loops and toggles, put the adjustable webbing straps over the pegs holding the groundsheet and tighten. Go around again and peg out the elastic loops in the middle of the panels and it's job done.

I did this in rain a few times and the inner gets wet, it was a simple matter to dry the floor with a towel.   It would be possible to pitch the outer first and then wiggle the Nest over the apex and base of the pole, but it would be a bit of a faff.

Living in the tent. The tent has masses of space for 1 person and would be very comfortable for 2, though I found that the central pole created a bit of a psychological barrier, it would probably stop you cuddling up to your SO as well.

Separation between the inner and outer is good, except at the door, where they are very close (this could be my pitching).  The gap is big enough to store small things under cover that you don't want inside the tent. I had water and fuel bottles, stove and sandals here.  Panniers would need to be left outside.  If you wanted them in the tent then a bin liner or plastic sheet might be an idea if they were dirty.

I had heavy condensation on the inner on a couple of still nights.  This did not drip into the inner, condensation is going to happen in any tent and as long as the tent is well designed it isn't a issue.   It does become a minor nuisance when you unzip the outer door, the Silnylon is very slick and water droplets cascade off, onto the floor and onto you! Again, keep a towel handy.

I didn't have to cook inside this trip.  I'm perfectly happy to cook carefully in a tent porch, but this one doesn't have a porch.   I experimented by unclipping the groundsheet nearest the door. This allowed me to pull the groundsheet and inner back and left enough space to use a Trangia under cover.  Unclipping another point would give even more room.  Alternatively, you could site a stove near the pole and cook there, but you'd need to protect the groundsheet from hot stoves or pans.

The groundsheet itself is fairly thin, but I had no issues with dampness or water seepage, although I wasn't camping on very wet ground.

The apex of the pyramid seems to attract flying insects, there were always loads between the inner and outer.

Conclusion. I'm a bit conflicted by this tent,  it's easy to put up and very comfortable to live in, but the lack of a porch could be a pain on a long trip.  The weight is acceptable, but the inner and outer combined are quite bulky, the sheer amount of fabric used sees to that.  The combination is probably twice the volume of my Akto.  If used for walking you could reduce this by leaving the pole behind and using trekking poles, but that's not an option on a bike tour. The pole will fit diagonally in a Carradice rear pannier, not vertically.

I think this would be far better used without the Nest as a "super tarp", less bulk and no problem with cooking & storage space. Just use a groundsheet to keep your sleeping bag dry,  however as I attract biting insects like Sam attracts hot babes this isn't an option for me!

Bob in the video below has been trying to get some half-Nests made,  I'd definitely be in the market for one of those, but he's had no luck finding a supplier. 

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/CnC8vnIcN4I&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/CnC8vnIcN4I&rel=1</a>

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Re: Golite Shangri-La 3 and Nest
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2011, 08:19:38 pm »
Update - Oookworks are now making half size inners in both solid & mesh fabrics, giving a generous inner tent & huge porch.  I may get one of these to try.

Other stuff they do <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/_AOjJfGX5x0&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/_AOjJfGX5x0&rel=1</a> and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/tDxN_ObGrI0&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/tDxN_ObGrI0&rel=1</a>
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