Author Topic: Random audax questions  (Read 224243 times)

fungus

  • SO @ T
    • Tamworth cycling club
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #625 on: June 22, 2014, 07:37:30 pm »
What's the time limit for returning completed diy cards?  I think I've seen 2 weeks some where or other. 

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #626 on: June 22, 2014, 08:12:38 pm »
On the printed brevet cards it does say "within 14 days".
(Maybe it's enshrined in the Handbook also?)
I wouldn't think validation would be likely to be refused if you took longer, though. Especially if there was a good reason.

Phixie

  • No gears and all the ideas
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #627 on: June 23, 2014, 10:05:39 am »
See Appendix 9.8.7 (on p55 of the current Handbook.

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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #628 on: June 24, 2014, 04:32:34 pm »
On the printed brevet cards it does say "within 14 days".
(Maybe it's enshrined in the Handbook also?)
I wouldn't think validation would be likely to be refused if you took longer, though. Especially if there was a good reason.

On a calendar event with a postal finish, validation would almost certainly be refused if the card arrived back late to the organiser.

Keith

fungus

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    • Tamworth cycling club
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #629 on: June 24, 2014, 11:07:55 pm »
Did the ride Saturday & all sorted now thanks  :thumbsup:
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #630 on: July 17, 2014, 05:48:42 pm »
The clues probably in the title, but fixed SR is it fixed only or will a singlespeed count?
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #631 on: July 17, 2014, 06:37:49 pm »
You are right; the name of the award defines the requirements.
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jogler

  • mojo operandi
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #632 on: July 17, 2014, 08:48:08 pm »
Fixed : unequivocally aiui

Phixie

  • No gears and all the ideas
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #633 on: July 17, 2014, 08:59:21 pm »
Not only is it fixed, hub gears such as the Sturmey Archer S3X are not allowed (though you may use both cogs on double sided fixed hub.)

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caerau

  • SR x 3 - PBP fail but 1090 km - hey - not too bad
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #634 on: July 29, 2014, 05:22:30 pm »
Anyone know what software AUK (or maybe just Steve Snook) uses to calculate climbing figures? It's annoying when I do a ride that my garmin and the various route design websites tells me qualifies for AAA points - then I get quoted a figure that is only about 2/3 good enough by those who validate.  I appreciate they're probably right and have a more accurate analysis - it'd just be nice to use it too if it isn't proprietary super-expensive software.


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RichForrest

  • T'is I, Silverback.
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #635 on: July 30, 2014, 10:58:27 am »
He used to count the contours on a map as all the gps devices record differently.
Not sure if this has changed since I stopped sending them to him.

Rich

bikey-mikey

  • AUK 6372
  • Yes, I am completely mad ! a.k.a. 333
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #636 on: July 30, 2014, 11:30:04 am »
I went through a phase of contour counting to check what the various online programs were calculating.

It's very hard work, and the answers vary depending on which scale contour map you use, e.g. 1:25,000 or 1:50,000 etc

I'm certain that I've had answers from Steve S far quicker than he could possibly have done using contour counting, so I'm sure he has a program....
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caerau

  • SR x 3 - PBP fail but 1090 km - hey - not too bad
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #637 on: July 30, 2014, 12:28:58 pm »
It's ok I had a private chat with TonyH about it - no easy software solution it seems - think it's some sort of software written by someone in AUK. Thanks anyway
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Kim

  • Timelord
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #638 on: July 30, 2014, 12:35:05 pm »
It's a sampling problem for which there is no 'correct' solution.  Which means for Audax purposes all you can hope for is consistency.

If the validators are using proprietary software (presumably for good reasons), that doesn't give you much option but to send them routes to test.  They presumably accepted that when they chose to use proprietary software.
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pizzicatooff

  • Night riding is inevitable
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #639 on: July 30, 2014, 03:24:41 pm »
Anyone know what software AUK (or maybe just Steve Snook) uses to calculate climbing figures? It's annoying when I do a ride that my garmin and the various route design websites tells me qualifies for AAA points - then I get quoted a figure that is only about 2/3 good enough by those who validate.  I appreciate they're probably right and have a more accurate analysis - it'd just be nice to use it too if it isn't proprietary super-expensive software.

Cheers

This is discussed in a suitably concise and informative manner on Steve Snook's AAA website at http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/audaxaltitudeaward/gpstracklog.html

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #640 on: July 30, 2014, 04:21:33 pm »

Steve's expertise, enthusiasm and energy are enormous assets to AUK. He does a superb job for us!

Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #641 on: July 30, 2014, 04:27:19 pm »

Steve's expertise, enthusiasm and energy are enormous assets to AUK. He does a superb job for us!

He is brilliant.  I wonder how he copes with the workload - like, our DIY perm guys have a specific area, but Steve seems to have to deal with the whole country!
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bikey-mikey

  • AUK 6372
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #642 on: July 30, 2014, 07:36:06 pm »

He is brilliant.  I wonder how he copes with the workload - like, our DIY perm guys have a specific area, but Steve seems to have to deal with the whole country!

Nope he doesn't!!!!  :demon:  Only the hilly bits  :smug: :smug: :smug:
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #643 on: July 31, 2014, 02:04:39 pm »

He is brilliant.  I wonder how he copes with the workload - like, our DIY perm guys have a specific area, but Steve seems to have to deal with the whole country!

Nope he doesn't!!!!  :demon:  Only the hilly bits  :smug: :smug: :smug:

Heh heh, this is true!  ;D
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #644 on: July 31, 2014, 02:06:22 pm »
[badge geek]Another Audax question - why is there no badge for the Randonneur 2,500? [/badge geek]
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bikey-mikey

  • AUK 6372
  • Yes, I am completely mad ! a.k.a. 333
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #645 on: July 31, 2014, 10:01:43 pm »
[badge geek]Another Audax question - why is there no badge for the Randonneur 2,500? [/badge geek]

Or the R 20,000

Or indeed the, soon to be, R 30,000  :smug:
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #646 on: July 31, 2014, 10:38:21 pm »
The Randonneur 2500 is a fairly new award and (I guess) nobody has submitted a design for consideration yet.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #647 on: August 01, 2014, 09:02:41 pm »
The Randonneur 2500 is a fairly new award and (I guess) nobody has submitted a design for consideration yet.

Oh - so, say I don't do another one again in another year, does that mean I'll never get a badge?   :(

I only do this stuff for the badges  :P

Does this also explain why the Randonneur 2500 isn't shown on the member 'awards' page like the brevet series and R1000 or R5000?

Interesting why there was even an award created, who dreams this stuff up?  Not that I am complaining, more badges=better IMHO, but some of the stuff seems so random.
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LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #648 on: August 01, 2014, 09:09:58 pm »
The medals/ badges for many awards can be claimed in the years subsequent to a rider qualifying for them.
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Re: Random audax questions
« Reply #649 on: August 01, 2014, 09:18:05 pm »
The medals/ badges for many awards can be claimed in the years subsequent to a rider qualifying for them.

Ah that's good. 

Another question, apologies to anyone fed up with my badge questions!

If, say, you have an SR, can the same rides, or some of the same rides also count to, for example, an AAASR, or a WelshSR? 
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