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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2015, 05:12:02 pm »
Reminder to everyone:

To keep enlarging this database we need COMPARISONS.
If you tell me that tyre A on rim X was a right bastard or that even your 86 year old granny could install tyre B on rim Y without levers I have no way of placing either Tyre or Rim in the ranking, and your post will be ignored.
The ideal information is in the format:   For a given rim X, tyre A was a lot/slightly harder to fit than tyre B
or Tyre A was easier to fit on rim X than it was on rim Y
Or - if you think the order of the existing items is wrong... tell me and I will move stuff up or down.


I will be moving some other messages to another thread.

Is this list no longer updated? I've reported a couple of additional rims which haven't been added, & reported on tyres.

The OP has added your latest info.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #76 on: September 17, 2015, 05:22:52 pm »
Indeed. Thanks for pointing it out, Biggsy, & thanks for doing it, Somnolent.

One small addition - Mavic Open Sport. I find this about the same as Mavic Open Pro. Tried it with the same tyres. If I had to choose between them, I'd put it slightly easier, but any difference is small enough that I'm not sure about that.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #77 on: September 17, 2015, 06:04:23 pm »
The bulk of the messages that Somnolent can't use for the list now moved to: Difficulty in installing tyres? Chat

Please post there when not mentioning direct comparisons for the list.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2015, 09:39:52 am »
One small addition - Mavic Open Sport. I find this about the same as Mavic Open Pro. Tried it with the same tyres. If I had to choose between them, I'd put it slightly easier, but any difference is small enough that I'm not sure about that.

Open Sport added.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2015, 07:17:26 pm »
Add to / agree with your rankings:

Exal XR2 with Conti Grand Sport, very difficult indeed could just after much effort get tyre onto rim without levers but a swine to do; two tyre levers required to get tyre off rim

By comparison Open Pro a doodle fit Conti Grand Sport / 4000SII / Vittoria Open Pave 24 , 27  all went on easily and can be removed without tyre levers
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2015, 10:41:08 am »
I found a 23 mm Michelin Pro4 Grip V2 considerably harder than a 25 mm Schwalbe One to fit on an Exal XR2 rim. The Michelin was downright hard to fit.

The original Michelin Pro4 Grip and the V2 version were of equal difficulty (hard!).

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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #81 on: December 03, 2015, 06:16:17 pm »
Ba$tard GP 4 seasons

Need to be at the top of the list. Always difficult, but I know have a blistered thumb from last nights efforts on exal lx 17 rims :demon:
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2016, 07:40:46 pm »
Michelin Pro4 Grip V2 on Exal XR2 rim is tighter than a duck’s you-know-what. Nearly peeled my fingers getting them on this time (after a puncture).

Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #83 on: March 11, 2016, 08:15:05 pm »
With XR2 rims

Schwalbe Lugano 25 mm wire bead was fine little tight to fit two levers remove

Open Pave 27mm similar to above

Conti Grand Sport 25 mm very tight lot force to fit hard remove 2 levers

Conti GS 25mm Extra abandoned trying to fit

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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #84 on: March 14, 2016, 08:34:53 pm »
I would rank the Campag Shamal as easier to fit than Fulcrums.  Maybe it was just the set of fulcrum rims I had, but I spent a merry morning in Pedal On in Tadley trying to find any tyres that would fit without a major burst of Tourettes.  And that was in the warm and dry and not halfway up Birdlip Hill at 1am with it starting to rain.  Of the Conti tyres i find the Conti Triathlons reasonably amenable- better than the other Conti tyres, and slightly better (on the same Campag rims as Bontrager Hardcases.

The Bontrager Hardcase 28s are marginally easier than the 25s.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2016, 12:25:09 pm »
Mitchelin Pro4 endurance (700x23) the hardest one to date for me!  :demon:  Had to leave them for 24 hours stretched 3/4 on the rim and next day I could fit them with some effort on a shimano ultegra wheel.

schwalbe mondial evo (700x40) non beaded tyre, easier ever  :thumbsup:  Really easy indeed. On a specialized factory wheel (alloy disc double wall 32 spoke holes)

I have "soft" hands and not a great bike mechanic, just to put it in context.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2016, 09:44:10 am »
On Hunt 4 Season Disc Rims:

Hutchinson Sector 28s were impossible to (re-)fit, even with CO2.

Schwalbe Pro One went on using a cheap track pump first time without messing around with soap and water or any sealant-on-the-bead tricks.

Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #87 on: August 27, 2016, 10:29:07 pm »
On DT Swiss RR440 rims: I found Michelin Pro4 Endurance V2 substantially easier to fit than Continental GP 4 Seasons.

I also thing that the GP 4 Seasons were marginally easier than Continental Gatorskins (but it's a while since I had the Gatorskins, so I may be misremembering).

Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2016, 08:52:25 pm »
i use vittoria exclusively.

rubino pro: easy enough with both shimano rs11/561 wheelsets, and campag vento reaction wheelset
rubino: not too bad with shimano 561 wheelset, but could be awkward with others, including cod alex rims and cheapo vuelta zerolite
rubino slick: bought as a budget buy, were an absolute bitch on the 365 wheelset, never again

i've also removed some michelin l-ion 2s easily enough from the campag wheelset; and one was once used in an emergency at the roadside (i carry them as spares on the commute), which was easy enough to stick on the shimano rs11…
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #89 on: November 01, 2016, 12:44:58 am »
Schwalbe S-One tubeless vs Novatec 30 wheels
2 levers off
Thumbs on

I was pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #90 on: February 07, 2017, 07:46:09 am »
By far my worst experience is the  700c 28mm Continental SuperSport Plus Road Tyre (basically a slick Marathon Plus) on an Excal LX 17 rim. I gave up on that combo after puncturing 4 tubes.

Still hard but doable (ie with levers and no punctures): Continental SuperSport Plus on a Mavic Open Sport rim.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #91 on: May 07, 2017, 10:47:31 am »

CONTINENTAL GATORSKINS onto OPEN PRO rims.


Harder than Marathon Pluses onto one of Spa Cycles touring wheels

And not something I'd want to do, roadside.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #92 on: May 07, 2017, 11:18:26 am »
Dear all, this topic is for rankings only - direct comparisons with the same rims or tyres.  Please delete anything else you've posted here and, if you like, copy it to Difficulty in installing tyres? Chat.  Otherwise the OP loses the will to maintain the table.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #93 on: May 29, 2017, 11:02:11 am »
I can't rate them per se other than say 'bloody impossible to get them off' but 25mm steel-beaded Gatorskins on a Mavic MA40 required a tyrejack to get them on and, when I broke the same trying to get them off and no amount of tyre levers (plastic and metal) were ever going to work, I resorted to a pair cutters and a Stanley knife to cut the b@stards off - I'll never touch them again.
Panaracer Pasela's (25 and 28mm) work like a charm and can be put on by hand and without levers and only require one to remove them.

Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2017, 08:34:15 pm »
Schwalbe Marathon Racer on DRC ST19 - very easy indeed, pull off without tyre levers.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2017, 08:52:25 pm »
Rigida Flyer/Conti Ultra Sport. Absolute bastard!

Hands still hurting 4 hours later...
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2017, 09:01:57 pm »
Schwalbe Durano plus 700c x 25:

Folding version onto Rigida Chrina was easy.

Wired version onto Open Pro was even easier.    :thumbsup:

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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #97 on: July 27, 2017, 11:26:59 pm »
Marathon Plus / Brompton. Utter bastards. I likened it to childbirth. Julian OTP, who has first hand experience of the latter, asked me whether I spent 14 hours putting the said tyres on using only my testicles. Of course, I relied in the affirmative.
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #98 on: July 27, 2017, 11:59:00 pm »
Maybe try some tyre levers next time, then?
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Re: Difficulty in installing tyres? RANKINGS only PLEASE
« Reply #99 on: April 28, 2018, 03:55:35 pm »
On Kinlin xc-279 700c rim Michelin Pro 4 Service Course were a *lot* easier than Connti GP 4 seasons and also easier than GP 4000 (earlier version). Given these latter 2 are not difficult that should give an idea of how easily the Michelins went on!