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Steph

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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2011, 12:13:00 am »
Been removed, so I guess 'leak'.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2011, 12:25:22 am »
I was an extra on one of the promos/virals for Prometheus, and production were paranoid about anything leaking out. I'd like to tell you who was in it and what it was about, but I'm actually that worried about revealing something I shouldn't and being prosecuted, that I don't feel that I can.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 11:50:30 am »
Official trailer <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/sftuxbvGwiU&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/sftuxbvGwiU&rel=1</a>   :thumbsup:

It's so Alien.... http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1178902/prometheus_trailer_analysis.html
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2011, 02:05:55 pm »
An "Alien" prequel by the director of "Alien".

It sounds too good to be true and Scott would now have enough clout to prevent his visions being steamrollered by Hollywood marketting types (you would hope he made it on the understanding that he got full creative control).

Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2012, 09:08:30 pm »
https://www.weylandindustries.com/

If you'll indulge me, I'd like to change the future.....
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2012, 10:37:32 pm »
I opened this thread in the hope that the Prometheus Trailer was a viable alternative to the Bob Yak.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2012, 10:49:50 pm »
I opened this thread in the hope that the Prometheus Trailer was a viable alternative to the Bob Yak.

It's something that's gone on before, rather than something that follows behind.....
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2012, 01:51:43 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cq7Z3pqJ4dY&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/cq7Z3pqJ4dY&rel=1</a>

And another....
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2012, 03:44:17 pm »
Those trailers look quite promising.  It looks like it could be something more than just another "waiting for something to jump out" version, and to be fair to the various makers of the Alien film franchise, most of them have had a different take on the beasties, so they weren't just remake of the same storyline against a different background.

Unfortunately, the original Alien series got weaker as the films progressed.  I liked them all to some extent, but the earliest was definitely the peak.  Alien Resurrection had a few nice bits in it, but overall was a bit hopeless.  AVP was also an interesting approach, combining the two series reasonably cleverly, but again the original Predator film was better than the later ones, and I don't think AVP came close to competing with either "Alien" or "Predator".
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2012, 07:34:33 pm »
Those trailers look quite promising.  It looks like it could be something more than just another "waiting for something to jump out" version, and to be fair to the various makers of the Alien film franchise, most of them have had a different take on the beasties, so they weren't just remake of the same storyline against a different background.

Unfortunately, the original Alien series got weaker as the films progressed.  I liked them all to some extent, but the earliest was definitely the peak.  Alien Resurrection had a few nice bits in it, but overall was a bit hopeless.  AVP was also an interesting approach, combining the two series reasonably cleverly, but again the original Predator film was better than the later ones, and I don't think AVP came close to competing with either "Alien" or "Predator".

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I don't think AVP came close to competing with either "Alien" or "Predator".

I don't think there's a sane human being on the planet saying it did.

Alien was a masterpiece but I'll concede that James Cameron did a great job on Aliens and gave us some iconic scenes/quotes (the Powerloader entrance with the classic "Get away from her you Bitch" still gets the hairs on my neck standing up.)

I don't have much time for 3 & 4.

Prometheus (Alien -1 ?) still looks promising and epic.  IMAX eh?

Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2012, 07:55:34 pm »
I'm wondering about organising a work outing to Waterloo IMAX one evening, if they're showing this film.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2012, 08:06:22 pm »
Squee!

Was that a flying space-jockey ship?  It was! It waaaaas! *dance*
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 08:36:01 am »
And now this one:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/HHcHYisZFLU&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/HHcHYisZFLU&rel=1</a>

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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 09:04:29 am »
Based on that trailer things seem promising.

They're obviously being deliberately vague about who left the message on Earth (and what it means), so it's not clear if it's the big bloke we saw dead in the first film, the aliens themselves, or something else.

The footage looks good, although obviously modern CGI should be capable of producing impressive stuff, should they make the effort.  That's not to say that the original Alien film wasn't, and indeed largely still is, impressive, but it'll be interesting to see what they do this time.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 09:23:57 am »
Based on that trailer things seem promising.

They're obviously being deliberately vague about who left the message on Earth (and what it means), so it's not clear if it's the big bloke we saw dead in the first film, the aliens themselves, or something else.

The footage looks good, although obviously modern CGI should be capable of producing impressive stuff, should they make the effort.  That's not to say that the original Alien film wasn't, and indeed largely still is, impressive, but it'll be interesting to see what they do this time.

+1 to that.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2012, 10:08:05 am »
I think I need to get out my box set and watch the first couple of films again.  That's something to do this evening organised. :)
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2012, 10:18:53 am »
*deploys tenalady* ;D
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2012, 11:37:17 am »
The Weyland Industries site also has a few updates https://www.weylandindustries.com/#/timeline

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/gEO3lmVy-tU&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/gEO3lmVy-tU&rel=1</a>

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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2012, 08:48:22 pm »
And a much more sensible UK trailer.  This one makes me more inclined to see the film than the US one - not that I was going to miss it!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/a9jRaa4Wkbk&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/a9jRaa4Wkbk&rel=1</a>
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2012, 09:12:35 pm »
I was a smooth cheeked 15 year old in 1979, they wouldn't let me in to see it. I've still never watched the original on a big screen.

When I went to Iceland in 2002 I hiked up to the snout of the Skaftafellsjokull glacier.  Someone had found an almost perfectly oval rock and positioned it vertically at the side of the track, it looked distinctly like an Alien egg.....
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2012, 09:41:11 pm »
And a much more sensible UK trailer.  This one makes me more inclined to see the film than the US one - not that I was going to miss it!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/a9jRaa4Wkbk&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/a9jRaa4Wkbk&rel=1</a>

That's more like it...   :thumbsup:
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2012, 11:17:48 pm »
I wasn't even remotely old enough to go and see Alien when it first came out, although I do remember seeing the image of the big chap sat on his chair with a hole in his chest, in the alien spacecraft, shown as part of a review of the film in ETI (Electronics Today International).

A few years later one of the computing magazines had a program for the BBC Micro, which redefined the colours in one of the graphics modes to create an "animated" image similar to some of the initial footage in the film, that shows the Nostromo's flight path as it lands on the planet.

Even though the technology of the film was appropriately futuristic for 1979, by modern standards it all looks rather quaint.  Modern video games can trivially produce far superior graphics.  The weapons, computers, medical and engineering technology they use just isn't realistically superior enough for a culture which appears to have extensive and widespread spaceflight.

I'm not sure when I first saw the film, but it was probably on the TV some years later.  I don't recall ever having a copy of VHS (for the few years I had a VCR), but bought the box set of all four current films on DVD a few years back.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2012, 11:57:17 pm »

Even though the technology of the film was appropriately futuristic for 1979, by modern standards it all looks rather quaint.  Modern video games can trivially produce far superior graphics.  The weapons, computers, medical and engineering technology they use just isn't realistically superior enough for a culture which appears to have extensive and widespread spaceflight.


I would argue that using kit that appears to be behind the bleeding edge of the technology curve in a space-faring civilisation makes more sense than going overboard with teh shiny. Older, less advanced tech may be more robust - even with FTL drives, you will be weeks or months in transit between star systems, so reliable, proven equipment that is less likely to break down could make the difference between life and death. And if it breaks, you need to fix it as easily and as quickly as possible, so simpler technology, or that which is mature and more widely understood is a better bet.

Not to mention that FTL drives will be insanely expensive, so once you've fitted your starship with the drive systems, the accountants will be insisting on the cheapest kit that they can get away with for life support, astrogation etc.  :demon: ;)

ETA - the phenomenon of using "Gen minus" kit instead of the bleeding edge latest-generation tech is nothing new in science fiction. For example, in Gordon R. Dickson's Dorsai books, spacecraft have FTL drives, but standard firearms are spring-powered, because higher-tech level weapons can be gimmicked, or are just plain unreliable anyway.
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Re: Prometheus Trailer
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2012, 12:01:10 am »
Even though the technology of the film was appropriately futuristic for 1979, by modern standards it all looks rather quaint.  Modern video games can trivially produce far superior graphics.  The weapons, computers, medical and engineering technology they use just isn't realistically superior enough for a culture which appears to have extensive and widespread spaceflight.

I need to re-watch the series, but I thought they did a pretty good job on the technology in Alien.  The things that really date it are analogue video[1] and CRT displays (that's one that Star Trek TNG really got right), the obviously standard fluorescent light fittings in the opening scene, and miscellaneous clunky engineering that has no right to be on a spacecraft.  The weapons in the original film were supposed to be improvised, so that's okay.

Aliens was a bit more technology-focussed, and I think dates more badly as a result.  OTOH, if it were set on, say, 2050 earth without the space travel elements, we'd probably say it did a pretty good job (especially if you include the deleted scene with the robotic sentry guns).

As in the original Star Wars, they did a lot of good by making the tech look like it had been actually used.  I can forgive an awful lot of 1950s aircraft cockpit on that basis :)



[1] And let's be realistic here, the trope of analogue video noise in representations of futuristic technology is only just beginning to fade in time for the first generation of children who've only ever experienced digital video.  Bonus points to Defying Gravity for consistently doing near-future digital video breakup right, and to Firefly for working with the assumption that displays will be higher definition than that used to film the series, and simply shooting through a cutout of a display panel, in the retro 60s manner.
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