Poll

Road cyclist, that is.  Who gets your vote?

Anquetil
Merckx
Hinault
LeMond
Armstrong
Wiggins
Coppi
Indurain
Fignon
Cavendish
Burton
Teethgrinder
Other (please state)

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Martin 14

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2012, 07:34:20 pm »
How do you measure greatness ;)
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2012, 07:43:17 pm »
I voted Fignon. Maybe not the greatest on a bike but dam good. He is however I think the best racing cyclist at writing about being a great racing cyclist.  Some of his stuff is just beautiful.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

citoyen

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Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2012, 08:03:36 pm »
Traditionally, I've always answered Merckx to this question, even though he'd retired before I even learned how to ride a bike, so that's based on reputation alone.

However, it was Lemond who really got me interested in cycling. Sure, there were Hinault, Fignon, Kelly, Delgado, Abdoujaparov and Millar around at the same time, and they were all great, but my abiding memories of watching the Tour de France on C4 in that era are of Lemond. 

Plus, in light of recent events, I've come to admire him even more as a person, as well as a cyclist.

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2012, 08:06:38 pm »
Breaking news - you can now change your vote!
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Martin 14

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2012, 08:40:53 pm »
Maurice-Francois Garin....for being the first tour winner and laying the foundations for the greatest bicycle race on the planet :)
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2012, 08:42:55 pm »
And for taking a train in 1904.
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2012, 08:50:54 pm »
Very sensible.  Bet he didn't do any of that not stopping at cafes nonsense.
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Martin 14

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2012, 10:01:55 pm »
And for taking a train in 1904.

Indeed, proof that cheating even back then was present :)
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #58 on: November 08, 2012, 04:49:17 pm »
Bartali. Won the tour both before the war and ten years after. His record during the war which only became known quite recently and after his death shows that he was seriously heroic in the absolute sense as well as on the bike.

Have voted for Mercx, because of his amazing dominance, BUT...this guy Bartali is a real world hero, and gets my vote too.
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arabella

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #59 on: November 08, 2012, 05:18:51 pm »
Jeannie Longo

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2013, 04:13:51 pm »
What about Bobet, he won three tours during my road racing days.
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2013, 04:36:10 pm »
Should really have Nicole Cooke on that list. If you look at her career, she's been nearly as impressive as Beryl Burton.  Also Jeanie Longo

If you are restricting it to road, then I vote Beryl.
None of the others dominated (road) time trialing as well as road riding as much as her.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2013, 06:01:43 pm »
Bartali isn't on the list. His war time activities have already been mentioned - but those make him a great person, possibly the greatest person who was a (professional) cyclist, not the greatest cyclist. I'm torn between Burton and Merckx for my vote - I'd kind of disqualify Burton because she was great at cycling, rather than a great cyclist - unlike the others she didn't make a living from it. But then neither does TG (you might say both live(d) for rather than from cycling) and he's on the list, so...
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2013, 06:28:22 pm »
Hmm, perhaps we should now add Nicole Cooke to the list?
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2013, 08:36:52 pm »
Or perhaps we filter the shortlist to exclude anyone who has ever failed a drug test or admitted taking banned performance enhancing substances?

It would be a very short list.

Pedal Castro

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2013, 02:33:27 pm »
Should really have Nicole Cooke on that list. If you look at her career, she's been nearly as impressive as Beryl Burton.

I am a Nicole fan but this statement is more ridiculous than anything LA said this week!

Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #66 on: January 19, 2013, 03:00:30 pm »
I don't think so at all. Before I made it I looked up their record. Beryl set far more records, true, but Nicole dominated professional road cycling in a way that Beryl didn't, and Beryl wasn't facing the same level of competition.
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #67 on: January 19, 2013, 03:06:15 pm »
I'd put Vos ahead of Cooke...
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Wowbagger

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2013, 03:18:41 pm »
I voted Fignon. Maybe not the greatest on a bike but dam good. He is however I think the best racing cyclist at writing about being a great racing cyclist.  Some of his stuff is just beautiful.

I'd say that Tim Krabbé is the best racing cyclist to write about cycle racing.

He is also pretty damned good at something else...

Oh, Bach without any doubt. Bach every time for me.

Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2013, 03:27:17 pm »
I voted Fignon. Maybe not the greatest on a bike but dam good. He is however I think the best racing cyclist at writing about being a great racing cyclist.  Some of his stuff is just beautiful.

I'd say that Tim Krabbé is the best racing cyclist to write about cycle racing.

He is also pretty damned good at something else...



I presume that you're not referring to his facial topiary skills?  ;D

Pedal Castro

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2013, 03:36:26 pm »
I don't think so at all. Before I made it I looked up their record. Beryl set far more records, true, but Nicole dominated professional road cycling in a way that Beryl didn't, and Beryl wasn't facing the same level of competition.

Hmmm, BB won 12 national RR champs and 2 Worlds, to NC's 10 national and 1 World. BB would have won more Worlds if not that she was so good that she was usually marked out of the race so much. In addition she managed 5 World track golds. She also once beat me in a 10, something Nicole has not yet managed to do! :-)

Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #71 on: April 13, 2013, 05:44:19 pm »
I tried to vote "Other - please state", but didn't get the chance (unless I did something wrong) so would state here, Marianne Vos

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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #73 on: February 28, 2014, 09:56:27 pm »
Agree with spesh with bartali, book is excellent read, he did amazing things during the war years
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Re: Greatest cyclist of all time?
« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2014, 09:05:01 am »
I would add one comment about  Beryl Burton's record, when she was competing in national/international women's road races it was thought that females were not capable of riding long distances or hilly courses.   Most road races were comparatively short distances and she was a marked rider.   It would have been very interesting to see her compete in current women's events.
Don't forget that she was world champion at the pursuit and also she beat the men's record for 12 hours so she was certainly was an "all rounder", indeed she held the women's Best All Rounder award for a record number of years and I believe the distances involved were 25, 50 and 100 miles, the 12 hour event was only for the men's BAR.