Author Topic: The Fall  (Read 4315 times)

Jacomus

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The Fall
« on: May 31, 2013, 01:23:03 pm »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wrk40

Miss Emily and I started watching this. It is a crime drama that follows a detective (Gillian Anderson) as they get brought in to help on a murder case.

It is a great piece of crime drama, comparable with The Killing in some ways, but not quite as overall-good. Something that I am loving is a total absence of background music - if the characters are sat in uncomfortable silence, so are you. As they rush somewhere, you hear only the sounds of them rushing, no driving music to go with it etc etc.

The main characters are not barbie and ken dolls apart from
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, which is good to see.

We missed the start of the series but caught up on iPlayer, via our cable service, which is cool as my laptop has decided that it no longer wishes to produce sound!

If you liked The Killing, it is worth watching this, though it is not as atmospheric it is very watchable.
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2013, 03:00:21 pm »
OK, who else thought this was about Mark E Smith and his somewhat acquired taste in music?
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2013, 03:17:37 pm »
Yup, really enjoying this.

It is a great piece of crime drama, comparable with The Killing in some ways, but not quite as overall-good. Something that I am loving is a total absence of background music - if the characters are sat in uncomfortable silence, so are you. As they rush somewhere, you hear only the sounds of them rushing, no driving music to go with it etc etc.
I hadn't noticed this, but I think you're right - and it might be why I like it so much !!!

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If you liked The Killing, it is worth watching this, though it is not as atmospheric it is very watchable.
I suppose there are similrities ... but mainly because both are a lot more grown-up than most current crime dramas. Not difficult :( (And of course the cold calculating female detective - but this one seems pretty sane, just not the standard female TV cop  :thumbsup: )

I think this is a lot more down-to-earth, less stylised than The Killing (in good ways, like the lack of music). It's also quite slow.

Anderson has really impressed me. [She sent us rushing to Wiki to check which side of the pond she's from.]
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2013, 03:20:36 pm »
OK, who else thought this was about Mark E Smith and his somewhat acquired taste in music?

Guilty
It's a reverse Elvis thing.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2013, 03:21:56 pm »
I've watched the show too incidentally - very very good so far  :thumbsup:
It's a reverse Elvis thing.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2013, 05:14:38 pm »
I wasn't sure at first but I've been watching it because my wife was keen and I've found myself really getting into it.

The bad dude is one of the baddest dudes in crime drama since Killer BOB. Truly creepy.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2013, 05:25:55 pm »
OK, who else thought this was about Mark E Smith and his somewhat acquired taste in music?

Yeah, fell for that. Was about to start rambling about seeing them at some grotty club in Liverpool in 1978 and being surprised the other day to see that there is a current version playing the Brixton Academy or the Clapham Grand in a few weeks' time.
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2013, 06:27:34 pm »
Yep, my first thought too.... 'Pay your rates'....

...my favourite band ever. Still going, I keep half an ear but I can't say I'm a mad follower these days. I keep expecting to read an obituary, MES has hammered his body with drugs and alcohol for years. He looks a good 10 years older than his is. I met him once, not that he'd remember it... for more reasons that one!

Re: The Fall
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2013, 10:50:06 pm »
Not just me then. I thought it might have been about how Jacomus had finally got The Fall. It takes a while!

I'm listening to the new album, and they're playing a festival I'll be at this weekend. Never seen 'em live.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2013, 09:14:00 am »
OK, who else thought this was about Mark E Smith and his somewhat acquired taste in music?


If you haven't come across "The Fall", the band from Manchester, here is a description of them from their first proper album

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We are the Fall
Northern white crap that talks back
We are not black. Tall.
No boxes for us.
Do not fuck us.
We are frigid stars.
We were spitting, we were snapping "Cop Out, Cop Out!"
as if from heaven.

So now you know
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2013, 09:16:13 am »
I think Gillian Anderson is looking far better now than she ever did in the X-Files.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2013, 12:08:13 pm »
HAve just watched the Alan Yentob "US of TV" (sp?) episode about portrayal of women.

Anderson was interviewed between clips from the X-Files - very mch confirmed Rigger's view!
(mainly due to the appaling hair-do Scully had in the early days).
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2013, 12:22:06 pm »
Not just me then. I thought it might have been about how Jacomus had finally got The Fall. It takes a while!

I'm listening to the new album, and they're playing a festival I'll be at this weekend. Never seen 'em live.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2013, 12:33:35 pm »
OK, who else thought this was about Mark E Smith and his somewhat acquired taste in music?

Yep.

I was in a meeting with a prof yesterday, and I referred to  the Manchester health informatics centre as "HeRC The North" He grinned. At the end of the meeting he mentioned he'd been to see The Fall last year (reporting that it was shit). Made a friend, I think.

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2013, 12:34:41 pm »
We need a
{the Fall : disambiguation} thingy before this gets out of hand.

Probably too late ...
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2013, 12:41:40 pm »
We need a
{the Fall : disambiguation} thingy before this gets out of hand.

Probably too late ...

disambiguate Marc E Smith?  That's quite ambitious
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2013, 12:43:51 pm »
I meant to watch it but the digibox failed to record it. I might add it to my lovefilm and watch it that way. One of my colleagues was praising it and describing it as being very much about the procedural side of things, and then we rhapsodised for a few minutes about what it must be like to work somewhere where you know what the procedures are, and where to find them if you don't.
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2013, 12:44:57 pm »
Is this not a Free Range conversation?
Getting there...

Re: The Fall
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2013, 04:05:27 pm »
OK, who else thought this was about Mark E Smith and his somewhat acquired taste in music?


If you haven't come across "The Fall", the band from Manchester, here is a description of them from their first proper album

Quote
We are the Fall
Northern white crap that talks back
We are not black. Tall.
No boxes for us.
Do not fuck us.
We are frigid stars.
We were spitting, we were snapping "Cop Out, Cop Out!"
as if from heaven.

So now you know

Or, for the uninitiated, here's The Legend of The Fall, courtesy of Jeffrey Lewis:

<a href="http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=68010874&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=68010874&amp;server=vimeo.com&amp;fullscreen=1&amp;show_title=1&amp;show_byline=1&amp;show_portrait=0&amp;color=01AAEA</a>

Re: The Fall
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2013, 04:07:07 pm »
I think Gillian Anderson is looking far better now than she ever did in the X-Files.

Fact.
/gets interested
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2013, 05:34:46 am »
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2013, 06:55:53 am »
Stone me!  BBC Breakfast have just said that there's going to be a second series.

Bring it on...
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2013, 08:46:02 am »
I'm not normally the sharpest at predicting storylines etc, but i did feel the
"To be continued" was a pretty strong message.

 ;)
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Re: The Fall
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2013, 08:53:56 am »
What?!  :o It didn't end!  :facepalm: THat's weak. We were disappointed  ::-)

Jacomus

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Re: The Fall
« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2013, 11:19:01 am »
What?!  :o It didn't end!  :facepalm: THat's weak. We were disappointed  ::-)

At first we were similarly disappointed, though I think it is actually pretty good. There would have had to have been a hefty slice of Hollywood Policing for them to find at catch the killer.
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