Author Topic: Silly cyclepath obstructions  (Read 15378 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #50 on: March 27, 2017, 04:35:10 pm »
Ha ha! Well, I suppose tbf they might get out and push the button if they knew about it – but if they knew about it, they'd either take another route or simply jump it (I'm sure many take the second option anyway).
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #51 on: March 25, 2019, 03:14:03 pm »


Yes, we've installed kilometres and kilometres of off-road cycle track.  Job done!
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #52 on: March 25, 2019, 07:08:58 pm »
That IS an excellent paint-job  :thumbsup:
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2019, 08:57:55 am »
"Well you never said to take the trees and things out."
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yorkie

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2019, 11:42:56 pm »
Posted previously on the rant thread:

These barriers are on all the access points (6 from memory) to Hob Moor in York.

They are all grouped with a kissing gate and a standard gate with a RADAR key for wheelchair users etc.
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2019, 06:57:07 am »
Looks weird.  I'm guessing the intent is to make it difficult to get a trail motorbike's handlebars through by leaning it.  Wonder how bad it'd be with a modern mtb with wide bars.  Obviously you could lift it over the fence, but...

(edit) it might even allow a single child trailer through straight on?

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #56 on: August 16, 2019, 05:04:51 pm »
What is the point of the grooves cut in the raised section? I can't work it out.
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yorkie

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #57 on: August 16, 2019, 05:17:28 pm »
Presumably to catch motorcycle foot-pegs?


There was a major problem with the local yobs stealing motorcycles and riding them around Hob Moor (One of York's ancient strays or parkland areas) then setting fire to them (in the usual case of the police not bothering to try and catch them) in an area that the fire brigade wouldn't be able to get to. The idea was that the grooves would catch on the foot-pegs and the A-frame would stop the m/c from being lifted over.
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yorkie

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2019, 05:22:45 pm »
Looks weird.  I'm guessing the intent is to make it difficult to get a trail motorbike's handlebars through by leaning it.  Wonder how bad it'd be with a modern mtb with wide bars.  Obviously you could lift it over the fence, but...

(edit) it might even allow a single child trailer through straight on?


Wide bar mtb's might have a problem, although people on sit-up-and-beg Dutch-style bikes seem to be able to get through. There is a RADAR key operable gate to the right of the first photo, which is an option for odd shaped bikes/trikes and trailers. I don't posses a 2-wheeled trailer, so I don't know how well they would fit. I know if I go that way with the BOB Yak single-wheel trailer I need to keep the RADAR key handy!
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Kim

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2019, 05:30:22 pm »
The idea was that the grooves would catch on the foot-pegs and the A-frame would stop the m/c from being lifted over.

And then you've got a Silly Sustrans Gate™ with a motorbike stuck in it?  Not sure that's an improvement.
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yorkie

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2019, 05:36:24 pm »
The idea was that the grooves would catch on the foot-pegs and the A-frame would stop the m/c from being lifted over.

And then you've got a Silly Sustrans Gate™ with a motorbike stuck in it?  Not sure that's an improvement.


I don't know, they could torch the motorbike and see if it melted the Silly Sustrans Gate™ - Kill two birds with one stone...  ;)
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2019, 05:39:13 pm »
That's certainly what they'd do here and probably there too. At least that way they don't start a grass fire or melt the tarmac.

Yeah, I had thought about foot pegs but didn't think the channel looked deep enough. I guess it must be!
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2019, 01:31:51 pm »
...
They are all grouped with a kissing gate and a standard gate with a RADAR key for wheelchair users etc.
...

... and how would any motorcyclist possibly get hold of a Radar key ?

(Not having a go at you, yorkie, just at the utter stupidity of it).
Actually, it is rocket science.
 

yorkie

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2019, 08:03:32 pm »
...
They are all grouped with a kissing gate and a standard gate with a RADAR key for wheelchair users etc.
...

... and how would any motorcyclist possibly get hold of a Radar key ?

(Not having a go at you, yorkie, just at the utter stupidity of it).


That's City of York Council all over, never think two steps ahead.


Mind you, the mindless oafs who do that sort of thing aren't bright enough to think of getting a RADAR key. Most of them struggle to remember to look both ways when crossing a busy road!  ;)
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Kim

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2019, 06:21:53 pm »
Putting this one here because it's infrastructure so poor it might as well be an obstruction:



(The stairs are welcome new access to the Birmingham & Worcester Canal at Selly Oak, which provides a useful pedestrian route to the new retail park from the High Street.  There's level access to the canal via a convoluted route on the other side of the Bristol Road, which is un-fun to cross at this point.)

Two cyclists came down the stairs carrying their bikes while I was taking photos.  I commented that they weren't using the splendid new wheeling ramp.  One replied to the effect that it was so steep they were concerned about doing a Basil.
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2019, 08:26:24 pm »
There's a bridge over a railway line in Cardiff with just that that either side - complete with the groove on the Sustrans Ely trail in Cardiff.  It's not so shiny and new so clearly this isn't a new idea sadly.
Unsurprisingly, I tend to abandon the trail at that point and cycle up Cowbridge road instead.  I have tried wheeling my bike up and down it for a laugh though - you *really* don't want to be losing grip on the handlebars  :-)
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Kim

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2019, 08:35:07 pm »
There's a flight of steps a bit further down the canal that was built (using cycling money, no less) which sports no less than three different wheeling ramps, because that's how many goes it took to make one you could wheel a bike up.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #67 on: September 05, 2019, 08:30:35 am »
I've encountered similar devices on supposed cycle routes in Bridgwater, Stroud and Bristol, though the last does have a ramp as an alternative – with a very awkward U-bend. The one in Stroud is quite nasty.
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Kim

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #68 on: September 05, 2019, 12:55:45 pm »
Suggestion via twitter that it isn't for bicycles at all, but is in fact a geese ramp to open up new suicide possibilities on the A38...
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #69 on: September 08, 2019, 05:31:38 pm »
Putting this one here because it's infrastructure so poor it might as well be an obstruction:



(The stairs are welcome new access to the Birmingham & Worcester Canal at Selly Oak, which provides a useful pedestrian route to the new retail park from the High Street.  There's level access to the canal via a convoluted route on the other side of the Bristol Road, which is un-fun to cross at this point.)

Two cyclists came down the stairs carrying their bikes while I was taking photos.  I commented that they weren't using the splendid new wheeling ramp.  One replied to the effect that it was so steep they were concerned about doing a Basil.

We have something like that locally. It's not in a place I often cycle but I do use regularly as a ped. However, the stairs only have a hand rail on one side, and that's the side they put the ramp in on (retrofitted). Except they've installed the ramp further away from the side so you really can't use the hand rail at all.  :facepalm:
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #70 on: September 11, 2019, 07:12:58 pm »
Doesn't the ramp interfere with using the hand rail for some (probably smaller and less mobile) people?
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Kim

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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #71 on: September 11, 2019, 07:16:26 pm »
Doesn't the ramp interfere with using the hand rail for some (probably smaller and less mobile) people?

I expect it does.  It certainly would if it was a decent way out to avoid handlebar entanglement.  On the other hand (literally), there's a second flight of steps with a wheeling ramp on the other side, so you can choose one that's rampless on your preferred rail-holding side.
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Re: Silly cyclepath obstructions
« Reply #72 on: Yesterday at 09:32:44 am »
they have those on the footbridge at Cambridge station and on of the bridges out on the fens south of Wicken on an NCN.  I've never see it in use at Cambridge and on the rare occaision I'm station-biking I pick it up and walk up the stairs. 

As per ^^ they're generally too bloody steep
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