Author Topic: Novice running  (Read 11198 times)

Re: Novice running
« Reply #100 on: October 31, 2019, 04:55:54 pm »
I'm thinking of getting a Garmin Forerunner or similar.

Do any of these watches / activity trackers allow you to run the couch to 5k app? Do they have an OS as such?

I have a 735XT and I simply do a custom training session for C25K.  Having seen Greenbank's post I have downloaded the app and will play with it.

I had to stop running due to a failed experiment with Inov8 Parkclaws and have just restarted having had eight months recovery.  I'm running with a novice runner and no-so-novice guide so we're doing C25K together except that we are doing two sessions per week but doing four of each week, not three as per the schedule. 

Now, off to tinker with this app ...

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Re: Novice running
« Reply #101 on: October 31, 2019, 05:15:23 pm »
*In my head camels run inefficiently, limbs flailing - like Phoebe.
I was wondering why the daughter of Uranus and Gaea would run with flailing limbs. Then I googled "phoebe running" and discovered this refers to a character from Friends. So let's just pretend that Wowbagger's hijacked my account.  :D

But running is great fun. In a similar way to sprinting as hard as you can on a bike. Not that I can run for 5km, 500m would be my utmost limit.
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Re: Novice running
« Reply #102 on: November 01, 2019, 03:59:58 pm »
Thanks all. Now to choose which Garmin to get. Some of them are much more expensive than I had realised - into Apple watch territory really.

Do the Garmin Forerunners have good vibrating alerts, for those who don't hear so well? 


Re: Novice running
« Reply #103 on: November 01, 2019, 04:22:58 pm »
IMO the c25k app is rubbish.  It works as a data field only on your device and is very inflexible.  I'll be sticking to creating and updating my own c25k workouts.

I also use a QuadLock case and armband so that I can carry my phone if I wish.  It has proven to be an excellent bit of kit.  They sell many other mounts for car, motorbike and bicycle use too as well as a tripod mount and a desk mount.  Pricey but well thought out.

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Re: Novice running
« Reply #104 on: November 01, 2019, 06:27:58 pm »
IMO the c25k app is rubbish.  It works as a data field only on your device and is very inflexible.  I'll be sticking to creating and updating my own c25k workouts.

I also use a QuadLock case and armband so that I can carry my phone if I wish.  It has proven to be an excellent bit of kit.  They sell many other mounts for car, motorbike and bicycle use too as well as a tripod mount and a desk mount.  Pricey but well thought out.

I use the BBC Get Inspired C25k app. All it does is get Sarah Millican to tell me when to walk and when to run and on that basis it’s excellent - I require nothing more.

I have much QuadLock stuff: arm band, car mount and bike mount plus poncho waterproof cover - all excellent. The phone case itself is brill and provide a good deal of protection.

Re: Novice running
« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2019, 08:08:04 am »
I've started jogging again (can't really call it running, I'm too slow).
The cardio fitness is there, from my kayaking, but my legs just don't have the toughness.
Jog to the nearest train station to get in to work - about 4.4km. Did that once last week. Jog to riverbank carrying kayak and back (post paddle) - 800m each way, twice this weekend. Well, saturday wasn't a jog, it was in a gale, I could hardly stay upright.

Ran in this morning, I'll have to run home tonight, so that will be nearly 9km in the day. I hope my legs forgive me.
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Re: Novice running
« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2019, 07:40:34 am »
IMO the c25k app is rubbish.  It works as a data field only on your device and is very inflexible.  I'll be sticking to creating and updating my own c25k workouts.

I also use a QuadLock case and armband so that I can carry my phone if I wish.  It has proven to be an excellent bit of kit.  They sell many other mounts for car, motorbike and bicycle use too as well as a tripod mount and a desk mount.  Pricey but well thought out.

I use the BBC Get Inspired C25k app. All it does is get Sarah Millican to tell me when to walk and when to run and on that basis it’s excellent - I require nothing more.

I have much QuadLock stuff: arm band, car mount and bike mount plus poncho waterproof cover - all excellent. The phone case itself is brill and provide a good deal of protection.

I too have the C25K app on my phone and listen to Laura but it requires me to carry the phone.  Yes, the Quadlock adjustable armband is a superior beast but I'd like the app on my watch if at all possible.

I record my 'workouts' with the Garmin Forerunner 735XT watch so it would be convenient if nothing else to have the app on the watch.

Thanks all. Now to choose which Garmin to get. Some of them are much more expensive than I had realised - into Apple watch territory really.

Do the Garmin Forerunners have good vibrating alerts, for those who don't hear so well? 



Garmin Forerunners have a very good vibrating alert ime.  Almost too good.

Re: Novice running
« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2019, 09:41:10 am »
You crazy kids with your crazy gizmos.

I used a watch, and remembered when to start/stop.
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Re: Novice running
« Reply #108 on: February 21, 2020, 07:29:01 am »
I’m back on the program. I stopped in October after a fall (not while running). Started Cto5k again in January and I’ve just finished week 6 (25 mins, no stops).

All the usual benefits: more energy, clearer thinking, flappy waist bands, smugness.

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Re: Novice running
« Reply #109 on: February 21, 2020, 08:40:16 am »
I’m back on the program. I stopped in October after a fall (not while running). Started Cto5k again in January and I’ve just finished week 6 (25 mins, no stops).

All the usual benefits: more energy, clearer thinking, flappy waist bands, smugness.

 :thumbsup:

Having done C25k twice now I’ve kind of fallen out of the habit. We had to change gyms at the beginning of January as the original went bust. I started a new job at the same time so was away a lot. I might have to start C25k again as I like the structure of it. Shame there isn’t a follow on program.

Re: Novice running
« Reply #110 on: February 21, 2020, 09:31:52 am »
I'm having another enforced pause due to what I think is a shin splint in my left leg - pain on the bone itself, above the ankle on the inside. Haven't run since Sunday. Recovery seems annoyingly slow. Doing the usual recommended exercises doesn't seem to be having much effect other than making the unaffected side hurt a bit.

Re: Novice running
« Reply #111 on: February 21, 2020, 10:31:55 am »
Thanks all. Now to choose which Garmin to get. Some of them are much more expensive than I had realised - into Apple watch territory really.

Do the Garmin Forerunners have good vibrating alerts, for those who don't hear so well?

I have a 245 Music, which can be had for £220. Got rid of a Ssmsung Gear 2 Pro that did all the smart watch stuff but not enough of the performance metrics and training programmes that I wanted.

Love everything about it, and I'm still not really in deep with it.

WRT running, I've just started after not really running (in a very haphazard way) since late 90s. Have had a few false starts in intervening years that have gone tits up through overdoing it without realising and ending up with injury

Problem is I can already do 5k easily without stopping, or even trying that hard, so I'm having to dial it right back to let my joints and ligaments catch up. I have been cheating and doing 15 minute runs with 5 minutes walk either end, but even that might be too much.

On the plus side, I've had a serious yoga and pilates habit for 4+ years, and I'm relatively slim (10st6 to 10st 12), so form feels pretty good in that I'm upright and not fighting my body.

Re: Novice running
« Reply #112 on: February 21, 2020, 11:06:28 am »
Problem is I can already do 5k easily without stopping, or even trying that hard, so I'm having to dial it right back to let my joints and ligaments catch up. I have been cheating and doing 15 minute runs with 5 minutes walk either end, but even that might be too much.

On the plus side, I've had a serious yoga and pilates habit for 4+ years, and I'm relatively slim (10st6 to 10st 12), so form feels pretty good in that I'm upright and not fighting my body.

I'm similar in that in terms of breathing and general stamina I'm not too bad at all - it's the joints and ligaments that are taking time to adapt. So far, after 5 weeks of the programme, I've had minor knee pains (now gone), some foot bone pain (seems to have gone), a glute maximus tear (that one required 2 months off and a restart), medial glute pain (now gone), and the latest is shin splints.

I'm also a pilates veteran (6 or 7 years now, 2 or 3 times a week) but it's low or no impact. Cycling is the same. That's part of the reason I have started running: there are benefits from regular exercise involving impact, within reason. I'm hoping that the benefits outweigh the risk of injury - and I'm hoping that the risk of injury will reduce once I've been through this adaptation process.

Still haven't bought a Garmin or other watch. Next item on the list is gait analysis and new trainers.

Re: Novice running
« Reply #113 on: February 21, 2020, 08:07:26 pm »
Problem is I can already do 5k easily without stopping, or even trying that hard, so I'm having to dial it right back to let my joints and ligaments catch up. I have been cheating and doing 15 minute runs with 5 minutes walk either end, but even that might be too much.

On the plus side, I've had a serious yoga and pilates habit for 4+ years, and I'm relatively slim (10st6 to 10st 12), so form feels pretty good in that I'm upright and not fighting my body.

I'm similar in that in terms of breathing and general stamina I'm not too bad at all - it's the joints and ligaments that are taking time to adapt. So far, after 5 weeks of the programme, I've had minor knee pains (now gone), some foot bone pain (seems to have gone), a glute maximus tear (that one required 2 months off and a restart), medial glute pain (now gone), and the latest is shin splints.

I'm also a pilates veteran (6 or 7 years now, 2 or 3 times a week) but it's low or no impact. Cycling is the same. That's part of the reason I have started running: there are benefits from regular exercise involving impact, within reason. I'm hoping that the benefits outweigh the risk of injury - and I'm hoping that the risk of injury will reduce once I've been through this adaptation process.

Still haven't bought a Garmin or other watch. Next item on the list is gait analysis and new trainers.

It’s normal for CV development to be faster than muscle and general ‘resilience’ to the work of running. This often leads to injuries in novice runners as they increase speed/distance faster than their body can adapt to accommodate. Be patient and you’ll get there.

Connective tissues and bone take quite long time to build. Also shin splints (compartment syndromes) are pretty common at this stage. Go fast slowly:)

Re: Novice running
« Reply #114 on: February 21, 2020, 08:59:04 pm »
Connective tissues and bone take quite long time to build. Also shin splints (compartment syndromes) are pretty common at this stage. Go fast slowly:)

Thanks sojournermike.

At least I think it’s shin splints. When I’ve had this before (or what I have always believed to be shin splints) it’s been more on the front of the leg, and on both legs. This is a similar sensation but on the inside of the distal 3rd of the lower leg. The pain is over the bone (or where tendons run over bone) rather than in muscle.