Author Topic: Liberating LeBaton  (Read 3021 times)

Liberating LeBaton
« on: October 04, 2015, 01:39:59 pm »
Ok, so we know that at the moment LeBaton is hibernating in a wall at Dunnet Head.    I am guessing that he is in the wall that surrounds the lighthouse and extends up the hill towards the old concrete looking blocks probably from WW2.

With JenM's help we should be able to get a close fix and then mount a rescue attempt or two next spring and summer.

The rescue would require a relay of folk ready to take on the baton unless we can persuade the committee to amend the rules allowing for rail and ferry travel.

So, who's upferit then?

Kim

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2015, 01:49:18 pm »
Isn't there a confined space and/or gravity issue?

Would probably need to bring a SON-powered version of one of those crawling robots like they use to unmolish unclear reactors...  Or a team of dry-stone wallers.

Getting to Dunnet Head is the easy bit.
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2015, 01:50:36 pm »
Bollocks to the 'Committee'. Use the Royal Mail if you have to.
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Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2015, 01:55:05 pm »
So, stimulate your marvellously creative grey cells and devise a rescue plan, please. 

There are in essence three issues, getting to Dunnet (easy), locating M. LeBaton (might be tricky), and, the biggest issue, rescuing him (sodding difficult and complicated I'm guessing).

All ideas and suggestions as well as offers of help are welcome.  :thumbsup:

I like the idea of the SON-powered crawler robot.   8)

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2015, 01:59:43 pm »
So, stimulate your marvellously creative grey cells and devise a rescue plan, please.

I think someone's going to have to science the shit out of this...

 
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There are in essence three issues, getting to Dunnet (easy)

For certain values of.  This is *Scotland*.  Anything could happen.


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locating M. LeBaton (might be tricky)

I'm sure Jen could draw a map.  Then it's standard geocaching tactics:  "Where would I hide something?" "Where are the nastiest nettles?" etc.


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All ideas and suggestions as well as offers of help are welcome.  :thumbsup:

I think it would be relatively straightforward to construct a convincing forgery.  Just saying...   :demon:
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2015, 02:25:38 pm »
Why did no one think to put a GPS tag in LeBaton?

*sigh* :(
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2015, 03:20:05 pm »
It'd be nice if it managed to qualify for PBP 2019.
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2015, 03:30:14 pm »
So, stimulate your marvellously creative grey cells and devise a rescue plan, please.

I think someone's going to have to science the shit out of this...

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2015, 03:40:47 pm »
Pardon my ignorance, why was it left there?
VELOMANCER

Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2015, 03:47:25 pm »
Best to look at the other thread for that Torslanda.   I'm hoping to keep creative minds on a rescue in here please.   :D   :thumbsup:

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For those interested in the history the story unfolds here.   I'm only interested in the rescue in this thread as that's far more interesting.   8)

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2015, 04:07:36 pm »
You're going to need something like an endoscope equipped with a camera, light and lasso.
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2015, 04:11:33 pm »
A lot depends upon how far down and how restricted the hole is that LeBaton is sleeping in.   

The job may require a recce mission and then an extraction.   Very military...   

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2015, 04:44:54 pm »
<sings quietly>

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2015, 04:49:51 pm »
Sing up a bit.   It might help us find you.

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2015, 07:12:24 pm »
I'm thinking of one of those long grab sticks with claws on the end, but the problem is how to operate it remotely.
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2015, 07:14:34 pm »
Now can we think of anyone who can do dry stonewalls in the north west of England....

Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2015, 07:52:13 pm »
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All ideas and suggestions as well as offers of help are welcome.  :thumbsup:

I think it would be relatively straightforward to construct a convincing forgery.  Just saying...   :demon:

Was my first thought; it'd probably be quicker and cheaper than the return trip to Dunnet Head.

However, this raising of a ceremonial successor to the baton has already taken place.  Ruthie has forged the spiritual phoenix of the Baton, regardless of its exact resting place.  The practical task is done, and the little red book will travel on in its place.  The Baton itself is now a historical artifact, or a legendary icon of sorts. 

I would suggest that if it were to be found it should be treated with the utmost respect and reverence.  It has lived a great journey, travelling North in bursts of great speed and energy.  Then it has found a resting place after its pilgrimage.  To pluck it from there and then break the rules would be akin to grave-smashing.  One would not pluck the sword from the stone and then put it in the recycling.  One would not rescue a fine bike from the tip and then fit it with the components of a BSO.  So the baton should not be disrespected; after its journey and long rest, if it is found then it must surely roll on by pedals alone.  Otherwise it would be better to stay, sleeping in glorious memory.

Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2015, 08:23:03 pm »
I'm thinking of one of those long grab sticks with claws on the end, but the problem is how to operate it remotely.

A lot depends upon how far down and how restricted the hole is that LeBaton is sleeping in. 

You're going to need something like an endoscope equipped with a camera, light and lasso.

etc...

Far be it from me to under-complicate matters, but, erm, dry stone walls aren't usually cavity style, are they? Besides, that wall in the photos on the other thread looks like it's got a pretty well sealed cap along the top.

Is it possible the baton's just wodged horizontally into a gap from the side rather than dropped into a vertical chasm?

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2015, 08:32:06 pm »
Ah – I was thinking it had been wedged into a crevice in a cliff!
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2015, 12:14:43 am »
Bookmarks; I was certainly planning on The Hunting of the SnarkLe Baton following helping on Mark's little jaunt.
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2015, 08:59:47 pm »
It has a small brass plaque on. Would this help with appropriate detection?
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2015, 09:30:28 pm »
I discussed the matter of LeBaton's resting place with JenM at Dufton.   It would appear that once slid into a gap between stones LeBaton dropped with a thud inside the wall indicating that there is some some of gap there.   

I think this complicates rescue somewhat. 

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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2015, 11:27:19 pm »
Quite

From http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g7USDjpmfqI/U9vuUusmQ_I/AAAAAAAAECI/Z8XMnIW_bTk/s1600/Scotland+July+2014+027.JPG



looks to be soft infilled internally (presumably missing at last resting place).

Gonna be fun, without double-jointed wrist... ::-)
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2015, 11:31:29 pm »
So... inspection camera with a gear cable lasso upgrade?
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Re: Liberating LeBaton
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2015, 12:06:36 am »
So... inspection camera with a gear cable lasso upgrade?

Could be worth a punt; means getting a laptop up there thobut'
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