Author Topic: The Dean  (Read 52210 times)

Manotea

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #425 on: February 15, 2020, 09:57:18 pm »
Not too bad on fixed... it's not the climbing it's the gradient... Just one toughie, the climb up towards the Somerset monument... I've never made it... but it's relatively short. It's a great ride, just do it.

Re: The Dean
« Reply #426 on: February 15, 2020, 10:02:22 pm »
Not too bad on fixed... it's not the climbing it's the gradient... Just one toughie, the climb up towards the Somerset monument... I've never made it... but it's relatively short. It's a great ride, just do it.
Not the climbing the gradient, are you saying all of the climbs are steep, is the climb up to the monument the steepest climb ?

Re: The Dean
« Reply #427 on: February 15, 2020, 11:03:10 pm »
As Manotea says, the only steep bits are up to the monument, and then the 2 hills at Broad Town and Broad Hinton (but also fairly short); As well as Somerset Monument I also walk Hackpen Hill after Broad Hinton. Most of the rest of the hills are relatively gradual - all the Forest of Dean hills are 6-8% (apart from the very short bit just after Bream), and the same out to Stow through the Cotswolds.

Re: The Dean
« Reply #428 on: February 15, 2020, 11:16:36 pm »
As Manotea says, the only steep bits are up to the monument, and then the 2 hills at Broad Town and Broad Hinton (but also fairly short); As well as Somerset Monument I also walk Hackpen Hill after Broad Hinton. Most of the rest of the hills are relatively gradual - all the Forest of Dean hills are 6-8% (apart from the very short bit just after Bream), and the same out to Stow through the Cotswolds.
What gear did you use ? i am think of 69inch ?

simonp

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #429 on: February 16, 2020, 12:35:13 am »
Not too bad on fixed... it's not the climbing it's the gradient... Just one toughie, the climb up towards the Somerset monument... I've never made it... but it's relatively short. It's a great ride, just do it.

I have walked that on gears and got up it on fixed.

simonp

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #430 on: February 16, 2020, 12:35:52 am »
I’ve always used 65”.

Manotea

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #431 on: February 16, 2020, 08:54:01 am »
I almost made the monument climb once but had to stop when s car came down, thank the lord. :)

But I'd forgotten about broad town and broad Hinton, bream, St Bravils, Stowe... Time is a great healer... All doable... Though not necessarily all in one go.

Re: The Dean
« Reply #432 on: February 16, 2020, 08:57:14 am »
There’s also the weather factor. Grinding into a strong headwind (as is typical for the first half) on your first fixed 300 km doesn’t sound like fun to me.


Re: The Dean
« Reply #433 on: February 16, 2020, 09:04:28 am »
There’s also the weather factor. Grinding into a strong headwind (as is typical for the first half) on your first fixed 300 km doesn’t sound like fun to me.
I've done this ride 3 times, only one once did I notice a headwind in the first half (2019, great prep for windy PBP) 2016 was cold and 2017 was mild. 2018 I didn't ride. It snowed a lot.
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Re: The Dean
« Reply #434 on: February 16, 2020, 09:07:28 am »
Ive got a bit of the fixed bug, I've done a couple of lumpyish 200,s on fixed this year, apart from a snapped chain all went ok, has anyone ridded this event of fixed or is it a step to far for a relatively fixed novice. ??
I followed someone riding fixed the first time I did this. He nearly managed the Somerset monument hill, walked about fifty metres as I recall.

It's not just the climbs though there are some descents that will have your legs spinning
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Manotea

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #435 on: February 16, 2020, 09:13:17 am »
Yeah, the descent into Chepstow for sure... and if you're with a bunch at Membury, best to set off five minutes early otherwise you'll be dropped within ten minutes on the descent into Lambourn...

Re: The Dean
« Reply #436 on: February 16, 2020, 09:16:51 am »
As Manotea says, the only steep bits are up to the monument, and then the 2 hills at Broad Town and Broad Hinton (but also fairly short); As well as Somerset Monument I also walk Hackpen Hill after Broad Hinton. Most of the rest of the hills are relatively gradual - all the Forest of Dean hills are 6-8% (apart from the very short bit just after Bream), and the same out to Stow through the Cotswolds.
What gear did you use ? i am think of 69inch ?
68

Re: The Dean
« Reply #437 on: February 16, 2020, 10:12:15 am »
Ive got a bit of the fixed bug, I've done a couple of lumpyish 200,s on fixed this year, apart from a snapped chain all went ok, has anyone ridded this event of fixed or is it a step to far for a relatively fixed novice. ??
I followed someone riding fixed the first time I did this. He nearly managed the Somerset monument hill, walked about fifty metres as I recall.

It's not just the climbs though there are some descents that will have your legs spinning
Is the Monument hill on the way back on the LWL ride ?

zigzag

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #438 on: February 16, 2020, 10:33:08 am »
rode the dean on 69" single speed (six years ago), all the hills were rideable, iirc three of them felt hard - the hill into bream, white horse hill(s) and the monument.

mattc

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #439 on: February 16, 2020, 12:11:10 pm »
Is the Monument hill on the way back on the LWL ride ?
It used to be - assuming both rides still control at Malmesbury?
Happily it comes after a fairly benign section.

(little bit of history - back in the day I happened to meet the people who devised each route, and they found the leg back from Chepstow independently! )
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Re: The Dean
« Reply #440 on: February 16, 2020, 12:28:20 pm »
Ive got a bit of the fixed bug, I've done a couple of lumpyish 200,s on fixed this year, apart from a snapped chain all went ok, has anyone ridded this event of fixed or is it a step to far for a relatively fixed novice. ??
I followed someone riding fixed the first time I did this. He nearly managed the Somerset monument hill, walked about fifty metres as I recall.

It's not just the climbs though there are some descents that will have your legs spinning
Is the Monument hill on the way back on the LWL ride ?

yes

Re: The Dean
« Reply #441 on: February 16, 2020, 08:04:47 pm »
Is the Monument hill on the way back on the LWL ride ?
It used to be - assuming both rides still control at Malmesbury?
Happily it comes after a fairly benign section.

(little bit of history - back in the day I happened to meet the people who devised each route, and they found the leg back from Chepstow independently! )
Both take different routes from chepstow to malmesbury. Even more different after malmesbury as the dean crosses the ridgeway twice with a trip to Marlborough.
   Eddington  87 miles

mattc

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #442 on: February 17, 2020, 07:21:06 am »
Both take different routes
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What, BOTH of them do? wow.

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S2L

Re: The Dean
« Reply #443 on: February 20, 2020, 04:36:43 pm »
How's everyone feeling about this?
I managed to do some good miles in December, but lately, with storms and deluges haven't been able to go out very much... last long ride was 180 km in late December, then nothing longer than 100 since... I feel a bit unprepared for a 300...

Oh well, 3 weeks to go, things might still turn... ::-)

simonp

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #444 on: February 20, 2020, 04:41:43 pm »
I'm feeling like a DNS for me would be the only sensible option. I have had two months almost entirely off training due to illness. I'm planning to get on the turbo this evening.

Re: The Dean
« Reply #445 on: February 20, 2020, 08:37:33 pm »
I'm wondering about the chances of the flood waters receding, and if not, what diversion may be required.

Re: The Dean
« Reply #446 on: February 20, 2020, 09:24:05 pm »
I'm wondering about the chances of the flood waters receding, and if not, what diversion may be required.
Still 3 weeks away, plenty of time for water to recede.  As long as it stops raining.
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simonp

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Re: The Dean
« Reply #447 on: February 20, 2020, 10:30:30 pm »
I'm wondering about the chances of the flood waters receding, and if not, what diversion may be required.
Still 3 weeks away, plenty of time for water to recede.  As long as it stops raining.

At least a week more according to the forecast I saw yesterday, and then the jet stream looks like cycling again for another burst.

S2L

Re: The Dean
« Reply #448 on: February 21, 2020, 09:08:59 am »
Weatherwise, I am also limited... small car*, the bike only fits without mudguards... fitting the guards takes 10 minutes at home, but it's a nightmare to do in the dark in a car park, so I can only really ride this with a benign forecast.

* Yes, I have heard of such things like trains, but none would get me to Oxford in time for the start and I am not going to pay money for overnight accomodation before AND after

Re: The Dean
« Reply #449 on: February 21, 2020, 11:56:03 am »

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Both take different routes from chepstow to malmesbury. Even more different after malmesbury as the dean crosses the ridgeway twice with a trip to Marlborough.
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The suggested routes from Chepstow to Malmesbury are pretty similar as there are not really that many ways to cover the ground. It's after that they diverge and only come together again around Lambourn before The Dean makes a bee line for Oxford and LWL works its way up to Henley.