Author Topic: Arrivée est arrivé!  (Read 482199 times)

StanThomas

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #150 on: 18 August, 2009, 12:21:10 pm »
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I'd suggest that might be a very good reason to go to the AGM, but for reasons discussed on other threads this isn't the place for overt criticism of individuals.  Not that anyone is, just saying...

The future of LEL

The criticism is already out there. But I was looking for some explanation.

The "future of LEL" thread talks about Melita Luxton being 'appointed' to  run LEL and LEL as AUK's 'flagship' event. On the other hand LEL seems to be run on much the same basis as other calendar events, i.e. the organiser is autonomous within the AUK franchise. In the later case, if the organiser brings in her own people, keeps her own accounts and runs a successful event, it's not really appropriate to publish criticism in the official AUK organ. No matter that said organiser has apparently upset some club stalwarts.

So, is this simply a clash of personalities based on a misunderstanding of the organiser's place in the LEL scheme? Or is someone out of order?

Salvatore

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #151 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:17:50 pm »
How's the Italian coming on? From now on you'll always be 'Il Salvatore' to me.

Damon.

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et avec John, excellent lecteur de road-book, on s'en est sortis sans erreur

mattc

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #152 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:23:00 pm »
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So, is this simply a clash of personalities based on a misunderstanding of the organiser's place in the LEL scheme? Or is someone out of order?

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?
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No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles

mattc

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #153 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:25:24 pm »
Talking of photos ...

I do believe Mr Poulton has mis-identified the "Uffington white horse" piccie.
(There are probably several others visible from the route he describes.)

Are editorial standards slipping?!?
Has never ridden RAAM
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No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles

StanThomas

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #154 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:26:46 pm »

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

I think you need to elaborate.

border-rider

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #155 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:30:13 pm »
The criticism is already out there.

and "out there" it should stay.

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But I was looking for some explanation.

Fair enough.  Go to the Audax UK AGM, or raise it on their email list

I'm just pointing out that this forum perhaps is not the place for discussing this. 

CommuteTooFar

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #156 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:31:03 pm »
Had my picture in again.  I have only done one ride this year and still get pictured.
Less happy pictures show that the plagurised route "Traverse Rhondda" gets more riders than the original "Across Rhondda"


border-rider

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #157 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:31:28 pm »
Talking of photos ...

I do believe Mr Poulton has mis-identified the "Uffington white horse" piccie.
(There are probably several others visible from the route he describes.)

Are editorial standards slipping?!?

Yes, I'd spotted that too.  Nice shot of the Lambourn Valley at Eastbury/East Garston (can't remember now) though :)

hellymedic

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #158 on: 18 August, 2009, 01:33:07 pm »
Talking of photos ...

I do believe Mr Poulton has mis-identified the "Uffington white horse" piccie.
(There are probably several others visible from the route he describes.)

Are editorial standards slipping?!?

Probably.  ;) ;) ;D

I was asked to proof-read several articles and obliged...

StanThomas

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #159 on: 18 August, 2009, 04:46:10 pm »

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I'm just pointing out that this forum perhaps is not the place for discussing this. 

Why not? On this forum it seems acceptable to accuse Lance Armstrong of being a drugs cheat and a retailer (or their staff) of some involvement in credit card fraud. But if you enquire about the circumstances of a published criticism of an event organiser by an AUK official then you're a child molester or wife beater?

mattc

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #160 on: 18 August, 2009, 04:57:28 pm »

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I'm just pointing out that this forum perhaps is not the place for discussing this. 

Why not? On this forum it seems acceptable to accuse Lance Armstrong of being a drugs cheat and a retailer (or their staff) of some involvement in credit card fraud. But if you enquire about the circumstances of a published criticism of an event organiser by an AUK official then you're a child molester or wife beater?

Two Wrongs don't make a Right.

[sorry, I seem to have slipped into proverbs mode today]
Has never ridden RAAM
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No.11  Because of the great host of those who dislike the least appearance of "swank " when they travel the roads and lanes. - From Kuklos' 39 Articles

border-rider

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #161 on: 18 August, 2009, 04:59:10 pm »
Mr Thomas appears anyway to have left the building.

Rather disconcerting as I was trying to send him a PM at the time.

Julian

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #162 on: 18 August, 2009, 07:29:07 pm »
Memo to internets:

Not everyone is familiar with the logical fallacy of a loaded question, and may wrongly interpret a question about beating your wife as an actual allegation of wife beating...

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #163 on: 18 August, 2009, 08:49:55 pm »
Pages 38-43 should be read in the order:

38, 40, 39, 41, 42, 43.

Otherwise it'll make even less sense.

I don't think it makes a busting lot of difference really does it John?
The avg temp of 'oven hot' doesn't change from one page to the next does it?
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Garry Broad

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #164 on: 18 August, 2009, 09:04:00 pm »
There was mention in the C'ttee report letter thing about 'the forum'....surely AUK don't have a secrit bunker forum somewhere do they? 

Martin

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #165 on: 18 August, 2009, 09:11:29 pm »
re Richard's report about calendar add-on rides; they are very much still going to happen, just not quite ready to go public, please PM me in the meantime if interested.

rogerzilla

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #166 on: 18 August, 2009, 09:41:35 pm »
Re MattC's post, it's a shame Stan didn't use Google, or he might have found this:

Have you stopped beating your wife?@Everything2.com

Maybe he's still reading this and will see Matt wasn't actually accusing him of wife-beating.  Or even drinking Stella Artois.
Hard work sometimes pays off in the end, but laziness ALWAYS pays off NOW.

border-rider

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #167 on: 18 August, 2009, 09:48:51 pm »
My PM was in part to explain that, but he left whilst I was composing it...

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #168 on: 18 August, 2009, 10:03:50 pm »
There was mention in the C'ttee report letter thing about 'the forum'....surely AUK don't have a secrit bunker forum somewhere do they? 

Nothing more than the Yahoo! Audax Group.
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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #169 on: 18 August, 2009, 10:09:53 pm »
There was mention in the C'ttee report letter thing about 'the forum'....surely AUK don't have a secrit bunker forum somewhere do they? 

That probably refers to the AUK mailing list. Details are here.

Panoramix

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #170 on: 18 August, 2009, 10:11:42 pm »
Re MattC's post, it's a shame Stan didn't use Google, or he might have found this:

Have you stopped beating your wife?@Everything2.com

Maybe he's still reading this and will see Matt wasn't actually accusing him of wife-beating.  Or even drinking Stella Artois.

It did stretch my English so he shouldn't feel lonely either!
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hellymedic

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #171 on: 18 August, 2009, 10:15:32 pm »
Maybe Malcolm should change his name to Benjamin...

Giraffe

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Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #172 on: 18 August, 2009, 10:32:19 pm »


Often a picture is worth a thousand words ...

Ooh, you are so analogue!
(Compare the digital file sizes, and I think a picture is often worth many times that.)

megabytes and soundbytes?
2x4: thick plank; 4x4: 2 of 'em.

LEL

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #173 on: 18 August, 2009, 11:00:40 pm »
Re MattC's post, it's a shame Stan didn't use Google, or he might have found this:

Have you stopped beating your wife?@Everything2.com

Maybe he's still reading this and will see Matt wasn't actually accusing him of wife-beating.  Or even drinking Stella Artois.

Oh Dear.

It woz Stella I gave out at the end of LEL....

And there are photos to prove it....... ;D :smug:

But i didn't actually force people to drink it.....

Re: Arrivée!
« Reply #174 on: 18 August, 2009, 11:03:26 pm »


Oh Dear.

It woz Stella I gave out at the end of LEL....

And there are photos to prove it....... ;D :smug:



Shhh! They were probably too tired to notice.