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Mudguards
« on: 14 February, 2015, 10:27:28 pm »
Hello, sorry for not quite understanding how this categorized forum works, being new here and as well a member of a Swedish un-categorized forum  ;). My question is simply, What kind of mudguards would fit onto my Enigma Etape rando bike? Very tight clearance,especially in the front. Thanks for any comment.

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #1 on: 14 February, 2015, 11:55:38 pm »
I was in the Condor shop today and saw these:

http://www.condorcycles.com/Mudguards/26470-Portland-Design-Works-Full-Metal-Fender/flypage.tpl.html

They're expensive, but they did look very cool.

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #2 on: 15 February, 2015, 12:17:30 am »
 As long as there's about 5mm space between tyre and brake bridge/fork crown, you can fit any full length permanently mounted mudguards. Just depends on how much you want to spend and what you want them to look like.

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #3 on: 15 February, 2015, 07:51:10 am »
I was in the Condor shop today and saw these:

http://www.condorcycles.com/Mudguards/26470-Portland-Design-Works-Full-Metal-Fender/flypage.tpl.html

They're expensive, but they did look very cool.

They are very good too  :thumbsup: Robust, and will fit within tight clearnaces eg a 23mm tyre and EC90 forks. Only minor downside is need to fully remove QR skewer to get wheel out as system uses tabs on skewer to attach.
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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #4 on: 15 February, 2015, 09:23:52 am »
How about these? Look very sleek and not expensive but possibly inferior quality or wobbly or unreliable?
The intention is to put them on more or less  permanently for a slow "Race Across Europe" trip kind of cycling...

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/crud-roadracer-mk2-mudguard-set/

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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #5 on: 15 February, 2015, 09:44:37 am »
Crud Racers  :hand:
PDW Full Metal Fenders  :thumbsup:

This is of course my personal opinion, but I've used both and smashed 2 pairs of Crud Racers. Others will have a different opinion to me.

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #6 on: 15 February, 2015, 11:14:11 am »
But the PDW's are for 23mm max I note.
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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #7 on: 15 February, 2015, 11:39:14 am »
No you can get wider versions, 45mm wide. I have them on my Cannondale Synapse, but they require a bit of trimming with metal shears to get them to fit a carbon fork.

http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Portland-Design-Works-Full-Metal-Fenders-Set_60710.htm

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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #8 on: 15 February, 2015, 12:05:30 pm »
Having seen an Enigma Etape I think you'll find it hard to fit mudguards in the limited fork clearance ... obviously depends on the tyre size/make/profile

You MAY get Tortec mudguards to fit the Enigma ... I fitted them to my Van Nicholas Yukon Ti machine but had to take the tyre size (Schwalbe Marathons) down to 25mm - I would have preferred 28mm ... although 28mm Conti Gatorskins just about fit.

Another option is SKS Raceblades but they are not that effective in my view.

My solution for a bike with minimal clearance (an old Dawes Mirage) was to cut some SKS mudguards down and fit them in the way described here  http://www.beewee.org.uk/generaldocs/briefings/robsbriefings-10.pdf

It works!

Rob

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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #9 on: 15 February, 2015, 01:07:52 pm »
I was in the Condor shop today and saw these:

http://www.condorcycles.com/Mudguards/26470-Portland-Design-Works-Full-Metal-Fender/flypage.tpl.html

They're expensive, but they did look very cool.
Thank you, these seem to be like hens teeth at the moment

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #10 on: 15 February, 2015, 01:56:16 pm »
Having seen an Enigma Etape I think you'll find it hard to fit mudguards in the limited fork clearance ... obviously depends on the tyre size/make/profile

You MAY get Tortec mudguards to fit the Enigma ... I fitted them to my Van Nicholas Yukon Ti machine but had to take the tyre size (Schwalbe Marathons) down to 25mm - I would have preferred 28mm ... although 28mm Conti Gatorskins just about fit.

Another option is SKS Raceblades but they are not that effective in my view.

My solution for a bike with minimal clearance (an old Dawes Mirage) was to cut some SKS mudguards down and fit them in the way described here  http://www.beewee.org.uk/generaldocs/briefings/robsbriefings-10.pdf

It works!

Rob

Ok, thanks robgul for tips, clever engineering there as well :)   I'll check around a bit more, might copy your concept.

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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #11 on: 15 February, 2015, 02:03:51 pm »

Si_Co

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #12 on: 15 February, 2015, 02:08:32 pm »
I was in the Condor shop today and saw these:

http://www.condorcycles.com/Mudguards/26470-Portland-Design-Works-Full-Metal-Fender/flypage.tpl.html

They're expensive, but they did look very cool.
Thank you, these seem to be like hens teeth at the moment
They're cheaper if you get them here

http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Portland-Design-Works-Full-Metal-Fenders-Set_60710.htm
Cheers, out of stock though in 30mm, along with wheelies, Charlie the bikemonger and lots of other places.
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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #13 on: 15 February, 2015, 02:14:35 pm »
They are good and they come down nice and low at the back, so your riding partners don't get covered in shite either. I've got them on 3 different bikes.

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #14 on: 15 February, 2015, 10:43:20 pm »
My solution for a bike with minimal clearance (an old Dawes Mirage) was to cut some SKS mudguards down and fit them in the way described here  http://www.beewee.org.uk/generaldocs/briefings/robsbriefings-10.pdf

I've used a similar technique to the rear suggestion here to fit a full guard to a fork with little clearance and standard drop brakes, except that I kept the steel strip unbent and ran it under the brake arch.

(Cut guard just in front of the mount. Drill out rivets from mount. Rivet mount, rear part of guard, steel strip together using existing holes. Rivet front part of guard and steel strip together.

Works a treat, and a six-inch stainless steel rule is pretty much spot on for size and weight. My favourite sort of price at under a pound, and you don't even have to mark it out for length.)

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Re: Mudguards
« Reply #15 on: 16 February, 2015, 08:51:59 am »
My solution for a bike with minimal clearance (an old Dawes Mirage) was to cut some SKS mudguards down and fit them in the way described here  http://www.beewee.org.uk/generaldocs/briefings/robsbriefings-10.pdf

I've used a similar technique to the rear suggestion here to fit a full guard to a fork with little clearance and standard drop brakes, except that I kept the steel strip unbent and ran it under the brake arch.

(Cut guard just in front of the mount. Drill out rivets from mount. Rivet mount, rear part of guard, steel strip together using existing holes. Rivet front part of guard and steel strip together.

Works a treat, and a six-inch stainless steel rule is pretty much spot on for size and weight. My favourite sort of price at under a pound, and you don't even have to mark it out for length.)

I tried it with the steel strip under the brake for my proof of concept but found that the dual-pivot action of the brakewas compromised by the strip (the strip of steel I have is from the stay on a UPVC window frame that a friend had replaced in her house)

Rob

Re: Mudguards
« Reply #16 on: 16 February, 2015, 03:36:44 pm »
The rule I used is fairly thin steel (definitely thinner than any window stay I've seen) and not very wide: it works fine with Centaur dual pivots, though it flexes down slightly under braking so there's clearly a bit of contact.